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Let's talk about the 1.12 icon

(The timing may be early…) I support Concrete or Parrots, what does everyone else think?--Beans1512_{Talk/Contribs} 14:16, 13 April 2017 (UTC)

So far I think Parrots would be good - by the way should we flip the parrot icon to face the other way? I notice it faces the other way from the horse. – Sealbudsman ^talk/_contr 11:28, 14 April 2017 (UTC)

THX. Please ask Mr.Oakar567 about the icon.--Beans1512_{Talk/Contribs} 11:31, 14 April 2017 (UTC)

How about glazed terracotta? Seeing as it's one of the most vividly colorful additions to Minecraft, although it's not quite instantly recognizable as the parrot. Just regular concrete would be too bland. This is the World of Color update after all! Superspace (talk) 15:19, 22 April 2017 (UTC)

That's pretty good! I will erase the concrete proposal.--Beans1512_{Talk/Contribs} 01:34, 23 April 2017 (UTC)

Since there was no reply after Sunday, sprite will be determined as glazed terracotta.--Beans1512_{Talk/Contribs} 07:50, 26 April 2017 (UTC)

No, we have until the release of 1.12 to talk about it. It's no rush. – Sealbudsman ^talk/_contr 12:00, 26 April 2017 (UTC)

Sorry.--Beans1512_{Talk/Contribs} 12:18, 26 April 2017 (UTC)

I'm sorry as well if I discouraged you from putting the icon there. I really only meant that the decision didn't need to be considered final, so quickly. I do like the terracotta icon, anyway. – Sealbudsman ^talk/_contr 12:09, 28 April 2017 (UTC)

For christ sake it's just an icon, we don't need to edit war over it because a decision hasn't been made. If someone puts an icon in just leave it, then when a decision is made it can be changed to it. –Majr ᐸ Talk
Contribs 09:55, 28 April 2017 (UTC)

Or make a concrete (powder) sprite featuring all the variants of the concrete (powder) blocks. Would also be useful for the breaking table of both pages imho. Just a suggestion... —DarkShadowTNT NL Admin (t ♦ c) 20:57, 12 May 2017 (UTC)

I would support using a parrot, or possibly a colored bed. The Blobs 22:43, 12 May 2017 (UTC)

190.190.40.182 just made it the Parrot – Nixinova • • 22:19, 20 May 2017 (UTC)

@Nixinova: Now glazed terracotta has the most votes. Perhaps he may not know about it ...--Beans1512_{Talk/Contribs} 03:28, 21 May 2017 (UTC)

Personally I would like it to be the parrot – Nixinova • • 05:49, 21 May 2017 (UTC)

1.12 is now released. Have we reached a consensus? I'm seeing opinions for both and . The former would be the more "obvious" choice (who doesn't love parrots?) but the latter has made quite a dramatic impact on style and decor. In the end, both are extremely colorful things, which is what the update is about, so either one would work well. Personally, I  Agree with glazed terracotta. Superspace (talk) 21:41, 7 June 2017 (UTC)

I'm equally fine with either. – Sealbudsman ^talk/_contr 22:10, 7 June 2017 (UTC)

 I agree with glazed terracotta.--Beans1512_{Talk/Contribs} 09:25, 8 June 2017 (UTC)

Sorting

I think the sorting of the versions should be flipped, i.e. it should be ordered from most recent at the top to early versions of the game at the bottom. Thoughts? ―HalfOfAKebab ^{(talk, contribs)} 15:02, 3 December 2017 (UTC)

 Agree - turns out those extra development phase tabs do add up. - MinecraftPhotos4U (talk) 09:29, 5 December 2017 (UTC)

 Agree – DelboyDylan ^{(talk|contribs)} 17:58, 14 January 2018 (UTC)

 Disagree - This template is primarily to navigate versions, not find the latest snapshot, so I think chronological makes the most sense as the natural sort order. In any case, most articles have the majority of the sub-navboxes closed anyways, so just the bottom box with release versions that is open on most snapshots. –KnightMiner ^t/_c 17:50, 7 March 2018 (UTC)

 Disagree per KnightMiner. -BDJP ^(t|c) 19:57, 7 March 2018 (UTC)

Add back the 1.13 icon.

I suggested to use a Command Block , a fish or water . Any suggestions? Please reply me. Haydkenmutthew (talk) 14:54, 26 January 2018 (UTC)

I'd say that because the primary name of 1.13 is now Update Aquatic, we should do something other than the command block. However, as we've not had any snapshots for the aquatic additions yet, we should probably wait before deciding on an icon. For example, we may want to use a turtle or dolphin sprite, once they are finalised. – DelboyDylan ^{(talk|contribs)} 15:17, 26 January 2018 (UTC)

 Agreed. Although I'm personally all about the technical changes, most people will see 1.13 as the ocean update now. A commandblock doesn't really fit that anymore. I'm not against using the water sprite, but I prefer icons to be picked from the new content (like coral). So I would say "wait". It's just an icon, there's no rush. --Pepijn (talk) 15:57, 26 January 2018 (UTC)

I agree with PepijnMC. --Beans1512 _{Talk / Contribs} 23:59, 26 January 2018 (UTC)

The first Update Aquatic snapshot is released! We can add the icon now! (Please help us make an icon fit this...) Haydkenmutthew (talk) 04:59, 15 February 2018 (UTC)

I would just go with the new cod item texture personally, or maybe cod in a bucket. Its a new texture to the update, unlike water directly, and is a lot more obviously water related than something like kelp or coral. –KnightMiner ^t/_c 01:00, 9 March 2018 (UTC)

Alpha 1.1.3 – does it exist?

MinecraftPhotos4U: I can't view the video you posted, and Google gives me no results for "Minecraft Alpha 1.1.3". Does the update actually exist? – Nixinova 03:25, 22 April 2018 (UTC)

To be fair its existence is controversial; the video is so low quality that it seems more likely that it's actually a video of Alpha 1.1.2 with the 2 distorted and compressed beyond recognition. Here's a reupload, by the way. - MinecraftPhotos4U (talk) 06:29, 22 April 2018 (UTC)

I looked at that video and the number looks more like a '2' than a '3'. If that's the only evidence for that version, I don't think it should be listed here at all. – Nixinova 06:49, 22 April 2018 (UTC)

I upped the quality of the video and it's definitely a '2'. Removing from template. – Nixinova 06:53, 22 April 2018 (UTC)

Indentations

The Classic and Alpha versions have weird indentations. MinecraftPhotos4U? – Nixinova 07:23, 10 May 2018 (UTC)

Release section too long

The release section of this template is way too long to navigate comfortably; it takes 13 individual scrolls or 2 full mouse scrolls to get from "Minecraft Java Edition versions" to the bottom of the template when trying to go through 1.15 snapshots. How can the template be made easier to navigate? Splitting the release section into "1.0-1.9" & "1.10-1.19"? Making it reverse chronological? Add collapsability to each major version? Nixinova  T C 02:49, 28 December 2019 (UTC)

Example with each version having its own collapsable section: Nixinova  T C 03:07, 28 December 2019 (UTC)

I like the idea of splitting them off each 10 versions. I think making each major version its own collapsible section doesn't negate this problem nearly enough. -PancakeIdentity (talk) 05:19, 6 August 2020 (UTC)

How about every 10 and every 1? Nixinova   T   C 05:35, 6 June 2021 (UTC)

I like it, but it should split like: 1.0-1.6, 1.7-1.12, 1.13-1.16--119.237.10.81 15:08, 17 March 2021 (UTC)

 Oppose While it may make pages shorter, there will be so much clicking on show/hide, that at the end, it won't be any useful. --TreeIsLife (talk) 06:51, 6 June 2021 (UTC)

Its just one or two clicks instead of scrolling for ages, try the above vs the main template. Nixinova   T   C 07:22, 6 June 2021 (UTC)

 Indecise about this. It may indeed be useful to reduce the amount of links on the articles, but having that many collapsible options may end being worse for readers, because they usually just ignore them, making the hidden versions very unnoticeable. Supeika (talk) 13:38, 22 June 2021 (UTC)

 Weak support, instead, I like them being split into groups. Random and questionable splits don't make sense. I think that it should be split into 4 sections, Release terrain (1.0 - 1.6), Modern terrain (1.7 - 1.17), Future terrain (1.18+), and Future (Combat Tests). Future terrain won't be used until 1.18 releases. Also, the sections will just be named, Full Release, 1.7 - 1.17, (1.18+), and Future (updates). Proposal below (reply with 2 colons). Humiebee^{talk contribs} 18:44, 22 July 2021 (UTC)

Will work on this in my Sandbox, User:Humiebee/Sandbox. Also added changes in the bottom most discussion (item sprites) Humiebee^{talk contribs} 18:55, 22 July 2021 (UTC)

 Support. But in order to freely change which sub-navbox each version would go in, every single post-1.0 version article would have to be edited to change {{{1}}} from 1.0 to its respective major version (plus Combat Tests). Then the template would have to be changed so that whether multiple versions are lumped together or each version gets its own sub-navbox, each version is sorted out so it collapses properly. BlackberryAwning (talk) 02:47, 24 February 2022 (UTC)

Colon missing and unnecessary apostrophes in SimpleNavbox

In the SimpleNavbox it says ''[[Minecraft]]'' ''[[Java Edition]]'' versions (without colon punctuation and 4 unnecessary apostrophes) instead of ''[[Minecraft]]: [[Java Edition]]'' versions (with colon punctuation and removing 4 unnecessary apostrophes (')) 194.34.132.137 19:21, 16 January 2020 (UTC)

 Done Nixinova  T C 20:35, 21 February 2020 (UTC)

20w14infinite icon

Since all the other april fool's icons are things that were actually added in the snapshot and not already in the game, I think we should change the icon for 20w14~ to be either a box of infinite books or a funky portal. Just a thought! -FezEmerald (Talk to me|See what I've been up to) 17:49, 15 May 2020 (UTC)

Where should Combat Test listed?

A:Other Version
B:Release

I think it should be A.119.237.10.81 15:05, 17 March 2021 (UTC)

I like Captain SoloCombat Tests where he isthey are. Dhranios (talk) (Join the wiki videos project!) 15:14, 17 March 2021 (UTC)

You are talking about B--119.237.10.81 10:44, 18 March 2021 (UTC)

1.18 Prototype Datapack Addition

I wonder if the prototype datapack for 1.18 (Caves and Cliffs: Part 2) should be added under 1.18 development versions.

Clearer rules for icons

I believe there should be a clearer rule for icons. It should be the most impactful addition of the update for the future. For example, 1.16's most important addition really was the netherite, but 1.17's is definitely not the amethyst shard, rather copper (or deepslate?). Here's what I suggest fir each version since 1.0 :

• 1.0 Ender Dragon
• 1.1 Spawn Egg
• 1.2 Jungle
• 1.3 Emerald
• 1.4 Beacon
• 1.5 Hopper that was hard. Nevertheless, the most used is the hopper
• 1.6 horse
• 1.7 Overworld
• 1.8 Ocean monument
• 1.9 End Highlands
• 1.10 Stray
• 1.11 Shulker Box
• 1.12 Concrete
• 1.13 Trident
• 1.14 Villager (the new ones are seperate mobs from the old)
• 1.15 Bee
• 1.16 Netherite Ingot
• 1.17 Block of Copper

– Unsigned comment added by MetalManiacMc (talk • contribs). Sign comments with ~~~~

I  Support this because it's a very good way to have actual adequate sprites. This should be done also for Bedrock Edition and Legacy Console Edition too. Supeika (talk) 13:34, 22 June 2021 (UTC)

 Support, same here. I think I will change the ones that are the least controversial like 1.0-8 (excluding 1.5). 1.5 should be redstone, even though it was not added in the update. 1.9 was the Combat Update so perhaps a diamond sword? 1.10 should be a magma block (farms), 1.11, though the most impactful was not really the purpose of the update, 1.12 needs to be discussed, 1.13 is already there, 1.17 is good. Humiebee^{talk contribs} 21:10, 21 July 2021 (UTC)

What are you thinking for 1.12? -- MetalManiacMc at your service fellow human! (talk) 07:14, 22 July 2021 (UTC)

What I mean is that there was a discussion at the very top of the page and changing 1.5 (also i realized that redstone is used in an alpha versions) and 1.11 does not show the purpose of the update. Concrete seems too bland (1 uniform color) to actually display the update. I think 1.12 should stay as it is. Humiebee^{talk contribs} 18:38, 22 July 2021 (UTC)

For the concrete I already used . 1.11 could be Woodland Mansion though. -- MetalManiacMc at your service fellow human! (talk) 19:20, 22 July 2021 (UTC)

Perhaps, it was the main part of the trailer BUT it is called the exploration update. Humiebee^{talk contribs} 20:37, 23 July 2021 (UTC)

Also, here is my general request. Humiebee^{talk contribs} 20:40, 23 July 2021 (UTC)

• 1.0 Ender Dragon
• 1.1 Spawn Egg
• 1.2 Jungle
• 1.3 Emerald
• 1.4 I really don't know
• 1.5 Block of Redstone that was hard. Nevertheless, the most used is the hopper
• 1.6 Horse
• 1.7 Overworld
• 1.8 Ocean monument
• 1.9 Diamond Sword
• 1.10 Magma Block
• 1.11 Explorer Map
• 1.12 Glazed Terracotta
• 1.13 Shipwreck
• 1.14 Villager (the new ones are seperate mobs from the old)
• 1.15 Bee
• 1.16 Netherite Ingot
• 1.17 Block of Copper

Also, to add, I think (to prevent duplication), the Full Release icon should be an end crystal instead of an ender dragon. Humiebee^{talk contribs} 20:38, 23 July 2021 (UTC)

 Really Strong Oppose. I think the regular change of sprites here is actually very good. People mostly find an icon, that will be used. The thing of "update should be described by the best image" is here many years and I don't see a reason to make sime proposal. For me, both @MetalManiacMc's and @Humiebee's ideas are bad. BiomeSprites should never be really used. 16x16px is too little for a some biome and the readability decreaces to 0. The current ones are fine and I don't need to overhaul ones we have.--TreeIsLife (talk) 21:10, 23 July 2021 (UTC)

Should we add 1.21 for early.

Now, it's almost guaranteed that the next update is 1.21. If not, we can change it already. Also, when I looked at the history of the template, I saw that when it was in version 1.9, versions were created for 1.10 and even 1.11, it was called "Future Update" for 1.10 and remained that way until 16w20a. Why not do it for 1.21 too? It's also free to change. Kırmacalı  ^{Talk Conts} 18:02, 22 June 2023 (UTC)

It will not be added until it is officially announced. Having it added now goes against rule #4 regarding speculation. BDJP ^(t|c) 18:58, 22 June 2023 (UTC)

Okay... So, we will wait until Minecraft Live... Kırmacalı  ^{Talk Conts} 20:10, 22 June 2023 (UTC)

Changes

Like BE, the icon for 1.11 is the effect hero of the village. For JE 1.14, could you do the same? 2001:4456:C54:D000:35CF:BC31:F03F:6C01 10:53, 30 July 2024 (UTC)

Infdev Split

Should we split Infdev based on stages rather than by month? This would make more sense as the versions can be split more cleanly among these lines. For any confused about this, the 'stages' are defined quite well in Phases of Infdev. When it comes to icons, the current pyramid icon works well for phase 1, with the tree being used for stage 2, and the cage for stage 3. (Basically the current icons bar the arrow) Jubean (talk) 01:38, 20 August 2024 (UTC)

Change reupload indicator character

It's a bit confusing having an asterisk, which usually means "more info available below", to denote iterations. It would be better to use a symbol like ⁺ for this purpose instead. Compare

1.5** · 1.5.1

1.5⁺⁺ · 1.5.1

 Nixinova   T   C   10:22, 5 February 2025 (UTC)

I find the indicator very confusing as there is no explanation anywhere on what it means. I would prefer a text solution instead, like adding "reuploaded" or "reuploaded twice" in brackets after the version (second list level). Ideally we would even have extra pages for the reuploads per Forum:Splitting reuploads which could each be linked in the mentioned way. -- MarkusRost (talk) 00:40, 9 February 2025 (UTC)

I would just remove the indicator completely. Mudscape talk 00:51, 9 February 2025 (UTC)

The ovbious choice would be to make an explanation about the asterisks. We can do this easily with [[#navbox-version-reupload|*]] and {{anchor|#navbox-version-reupload}} for the note. – ItsPlantseed ⟨₰|₢⟩ 01:07, 9 February 2025 (UTC)

Why do most people want to know how many times it has been reuploaded? I agree with Mudscape here. It always used to confuse me. (Sul4ur) 09:05, 9 February 2025 (UTC)

Because each reupload is its own version, often having its own page. The navbox is for listing every version of the game.  Nixinova   T   C   09:13, 9 February 2025 (UTC)