Talk:Music

Old .ogg files not following their copyright

EDIT: FILES ALL FIXED NOW.

Old .ogg files surpass the 30 second limit and therefore does not abide the agreement between the wiki and C418.

A list of all affected files:

• Minecraft.ogg
• Clark.ogg
• Sweden.ogg
• Subwoofer lullaby.ogg
• Living mice.ogg
• Haggstrom.ogg
• Danny.ogg
• Key.ogg
• Oxygene.ogg
• Dry hands.ogg
• Wet hands.ogg
• Mice on venus.ogg

Example: FIXED

(File will continue to play the entire track after 0:30.)

I cannot change the files because they are protected. --Neutral0814 (talk) 03:47, 20 December 2013 (UTC)

Should be fixed now; thanks for catching this. It looks like someone on the German wiki had uploaded the full tracks back when we had a shared file database, which overwrote the tracks here without leaving any indication on the description pages. -- Orthotope^talk 05:13, 20 December 2013 (UTC)

Sorry, but all the English files still pass 30 seconds... --Neutral0814 (talk) 16:29, 20 December 2013 (UTC) NEVER MIND, they all stop now...I guess the change didn't occur to my computer yet...thank you. --Neutral0814 (talk) 16:34, 20 December 2013 (UTC)

Some songs are not on here, such as "door", "equinoxe" and many others. –Preceding unsigned comment was added by 96.253.109.172 (talk) at 02:05, 9 January 2014 (UTC). Please sign your posts with ~~~~

Those songs do not exist in the current game. If they existed in previous versions you're going to have to provide some proof. –Preceding unsigned comment was added by 24.68.129.24 (talk) at 22:39, 03 December 2014 (UTC). Please sign your posts with ~~~~

there are many songs that I have never heard play, even after re downloading the game. some specific to the end (and end credits), and some specific to creative. not sure if my computer is constantly messed up, or if these are actually songs that are unused. any confirmation? –Preceding unsigned comment was added by 24.36.106.219 (talk) at 16:06, 31 May 2014 (UTC). Please sign your posts with ~~~~

I can confirm that the credits song was broken until recently. –Preceding unsigned comment was added by 24.68.129.24 (talk) at 22:39, 03 December 2014 (UTC). Please sign your posts with ~~~~

History

Can someone add some sort of indication on when songs were added? I know if I scan the entire release history lists I'll find it eventually but that's a lot of research for something that really should be on this page. –Preceding unsigned comment was added by 24.68.129.24 (talk) at 22:36, 3 December 2014 (UTC). Please sign your posts with ~~~~

I can start with the latest batch from nov 2013... – Sealbudsman (Aaron) ^t/_c 23:36, 17 May 2015 (UTC)

Move

The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section.

The result of the discussion was Move from Music included in Minecraft to Music. –KnightMiner ^t/_c 16:23, 19 May 2015 (UTC)

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 Agree. –LauraFi - talk 00:46, 17 May 2015 (UTC)

 Netural - Music is already a disambig page. What would happen to Music Disc? BDJP ^(t|c) 01:01, 17 May 2015 (UTC)

Music Disc would be unaffected (unless you mean Music, which would be moved to Music (disambiguation)). As for Music being a disambig page, in most cases where we link the article, we have used a piped link to link directly to the article rather than the disambig, while displaying the title "Music" (basically per the line from the bottom of disambig pages). –KnightMiner ^t/_c 01:18, 17 May 2015 (UTC)

Changed my mind. I now  Agree. BDJP ^(t|c) 02:53, 17 May 2015 (UTC)

 sounds good to me. – Sealbudsman (Aaron) ^t/_c 23:36, 17 May 2015 (UTC)

Columns in that table

Is it alright to have just 4 columns that are: Gameplay / Music Discs / Soundtrack / Track, and just as Soundtrack distinguishes Alpha and Beta, Gameplay distinguishes the update when the music was added (and when it was removed)? – Sealbudsman (Aaron) ^t/_c 23:50, 17 May 2015 (UTC)

The historical columns should really be moved to a new history section as the style guide requires, and any removed tracks to a "removed tracks" subsection of the history section or the removed features article.

Likewise, I would suggest merging the gameplay and music disc column into one which simply states where it is heard in game (creative mode, nether, music disc, etc.), as there is no case where both say "yes", so it seems like a useless distinction. –KnightMiner ^t/_c 03:50, 18 May 2015 (UTC)

Music in Minecraft Classic

The tracks calm 1, calm 2, and calm 3 were all in Minecraft Classic. Not sure exactly when they were added, but shouldn't this be reflected in the history section?

Rqaa3721 (talk) 00:04, 21 July 2015 (UTC)

Calm 4?

Calm 4 is mentioned in the copyright/"30 sec only" notice but not present in the list and History section says it was removed in Alpha, so why mention it in that notice? 49.207.184.251 08:09, 9 December 2015 (UTC)

CE

Add the exclusive music from Console Edition! Who wants to put it, say:  Agree--66.50.13.92 17:09, 3 December 2016 (UTC)

Sure, when did they add exclusive tracks, and what tracks are they? – Sealbudsman ^talk/_contr 19:25, 3 December 2016 (UTC)

IDK--207.204.181.251 20:05, 5 December 2016 (UTC)

Tumble tracks and battle tracks, DUH!--207.204.187.102 17:12, 22 December 2016 (UTC)

Mice on Venus incorrectly labeled hal2 (or vice versa)

Plz fix the error on section Trivia. 111.194.114.57 02:41, 11 February 2019 (UTC)

Split this one as well

I've had a thought at the back of my head ever since proposing to split Status effect and Enchanting that we should maybe also split this page as well;

• Splitting this page into different articles would allow more room for information about each track to be noted. Currently, we don't even have a descriptive sentence for each one - just a few columns in a table with no personality whatsoever.
• Certain other wikis, such as the Undertale and Silent Hill wikis, have their OSTs split up into a page for each track.
• Currently, the trivia section lists a bunch of jumbled information about many different tracks - splitting the page would allow for this information to be noted on the specific track's page instead. Similar can be said for the History section.
• On some devices (tested on an ipad air 2) the sheer amount of audio files stacked up here cause the page to lag considerably when scrolling past them, which obviously is not a good thing.

Any thoughts on this? - User-12316399 (talk) 15:33, 1 March 2019 (UTC)

I do not see the value in splitting this music page up. The reason for this being is that there's very few information (as far as I know), if any, available for every track, apart from the music discs (though those have their own page already, with bits and bobs described about the tracks).

The reason the wikis you mentioned, have split their music stuff up, is most likely because there's a specific scene (in both Undertale's and Silent Hill's case) where this song plays. However, in our case, the music is played pretty much at random - the only variation is Overworld, Nether, End and credits. This is also a reason why I don't see the value in splitting it up either.

As for the page's loading time - the iPad Air 2 was first released in 2014 (with its hardware designed many years earlier). Through updates and higher software requirements for current applications, it's quite understandable it'll get slower over time or just cannot cope with stuff used today. —DarkShadowTNT (t ♦ c) 16:26, 1 March 2019 (UTC)

 Neutral. I'd need a mock-up to make a decision. Is there really enough information to warrant separate pages? – Nixinova   02:26, 4 March 2019 (UTC)

 Oppose per DarkShadowTNT. -BDJP ^(t|c) 05:05, 4 March 2019 (UTC)

 Oppose splitting; I don't think there's any significant information that could be put onto each article (particularly not beyond that found on the Minecraft - Volume Alpha and Minecraft - Volume Beta articles, which have the very short descriptions from the soundtrack itself). As for performance, I don't have any issues on my super old laptop. I was going to ask you to check burger which inlines a lot of sounds (and is a large and laggy page), but it turns out I actually don't insert the sound elements directly (only after clicking a button). For the page: it's possible that the sounds are being automatically preloaded by the browser; I don't know how that works (and given how old the iPod Air is, I'm not sure if there's anything that can be done about it). --Pokechu22 (talk) 16:30, 4 March 2019 (UTC)

 Oppose per DarkShadowTNT and Pokechu22. FVbico (talk) 13:38, 7 March 2019 (UTC)

There are multiple valid arguments explaining why the page should not be split, five participants with no support, and the discussion has been open since March 1 with the last comment being on March 7. Therefore, I have removed the {{move}} template from the page, as there appears to be a consensus to not split.--Madminecrafter12 ^{(Talk to me | View what I've done)} 21:09, 13 April 2019 (UTC)

 Support I dunno, I mean we could just split em into different games, cuz Minecraft Earth and Dungeons redirect here and its a bit large to be honest and splitting would be good idea I guess. - 148.76.56.222 17:46, 25 November 2020 (UTC)

What are you talking about? I can't understand. The Great Spring (talk | contribs) (Tagalog translation) 04:26, 14 December 2020 (UTC)

Separate pages

I know someone already said it and was opposed, but I think, as the post was old, a new one would fit more.

We need those for this reasons:

• Trivia separated
• History separated
• In-depth description of song:

• Length
• Instruments
• Genre
• Played where and when?

• More organization, generally
• Quicker load-time because of the many audios

Templates, I don't know if there is one already, could fit. See User:RubenVerg/Pages/Shuniji –Preceding unsigned comment was added by RubenVerg (talk • contribs) at 18:19, 17 September 2019 (UTC). Please sign your posts with ~~~~

That was 2 months ago, nothing in this page changed at all, and all arguments are still valid.

Please actually check how old stuff is, 2 months isn't old at all... FVbico (talk) 18:39, 17 September 2019 (UTC)

Which is kinda old. People's mind change... Tho, do you  Agree or  Disagree? –Preceding unsigned comment was added by RubenVerg (talk • contribs) at 20:23, 02 January 2020 (UTC). Please sign your posts with ~~~~

 Support Again, as the original proposer of this split I'm definitely for a split of some form, but it'd run a lot better with a more fleshed out example. - User-12316399 (talk) 22:33, 6 March 2020 (UTC)

Along with editing your example and template I've went ahead and created another, more comprehensive example over at User:User-12316399/Music_examples/Sweden. Of course, we probably won't be able to write super big articles on in-game music, but do we really have to need big articles on everything? - User-12316399 (talk) 23:57, 6 March 2020 (UTC)

Given the fact that there are now more musical artists working in the game I'd say that there's all the more reason to split at this point, soon enough one page simply won't be sufficient to fit all. - User-12316399 (talk) 17:20, 26 June 2020 (UTC)

 Agree (TL;DR completely agree) because we need more trivias because this trivia is HUGE. So the following 3 articles will be: Overworld Music, Underwater Music, and Nether Music. 87.49.147.223 08:43, 7 July 2020 (UTC)

 Support The nether update added like 1, 2, 3, 4, 5 music tracks (1 disc and 4 biome music) Also, i think it should be Overworld, Underwater, Nether, and Other (end, credits, ambiance, etc)---Humiebee ^{Discuss anything with me Look at my edits} 15:57, 20 August 2020 (UTC)

 Agree This is much more organized description of what we should do in comparison to the previous post. ArwingProduction70581 (talk) 15:39, 16 September 2020 (UTC)

:   Agree I agree because it is abit big and all the Minecraft games (dungeons, earth) get redirected here so I dunno, probably, and it has a broad and wider subject that will need a split page. Minecraft Dungeons has a lot of sepereate music itself, in the background of levels, and  bosses, so it would be sensible to do split the page to like MCD:Music, normal Music, and whatever you guys want form the list of the first post in the talk.  148.76.56.222 17:04, 29 November 2020 (UTC)

 Oppose I'm a little late to the discussion, but how much information is there about the individual tracks? I don't see why they each need their own page. The Blobs 04:23, 14 December 2020 (UTC)

 Oppose The Great Spring (talk | contribs) (Tagalog translation) 04:26, 14 December 2020 (UTC)

 Agree Johannes Mattias Toome (talk) 12:41, 24 October 2021 (UTC)

 Support I Agree because I want more information about each music track as opposed to the very little information we get currently. Of course it will be a lot of work But I think it might be worth it. Also, it might be helpful to keep this page but for music in general and then have all the separate pages for the individual tracks. Cbgpenguin (talk) 17:25, 22 February 2022 (UTC)

Revisiting this topic

I think it's worth revisiting this in the wake of MCT:CP#Block Pages Granularity. I don't have any other proposals to raise than the ones above. I'm placing this here solely to garner more discussion. ManyOursOfFun (talk) 09:25, 10 October 2023 (UTC)

 Weak oppose – I don't see much that can be added about each individual music track, other than descriptions about their contents and character which can invite subjectivity, similar to what used to happen with the descriptions of cave ambience. However, there's less mystery and speculation surrounding the music which might make it less of an issue (though the tracks are substantially longer), and I suppose some description that functions like alt text won't hurt. I guess there's also more unique information now that some music is biome-dependent. –Sonicwave ^talk 21:35, 10 October 2023 (UTC)

 Support - the large tables in the article that are hidden by default but contain all the information are indicative that this should be split. I feel like we can still have good articles about the different songs with enough content about them. I'd imagine each piece of music to have a description of the song, which doesn't necessarily need to be subjective or speculative, e.g. it would be about structure, instruments, etc. This would also be helpful for deaf or hard of hearing people who can't listen to these songs but would like to learn about them. So far I don't think there's much of that nature anywhere, except perhaps Xisuma's music blog (which is obviously very subjective), and I do think the wiki would be the obvious place for it. | violine1101 ^(talk) 22:01, 10 October 2023 (UTC)

Music not working right

Does anyone else have an issue with Java edition's music files not playing in-game? I play for a few hours at a time and very rarely hear any of Minecraft's music. Title screen music works fine and when I load a world, one track plays, but once that one track is done, I almost never hear another song until the next time I load the world. The wiki page says "In-game music is cued by the time of day, with a random track being played at sunrise, sunset, noon and midnight" but that doesn't seem to be the case for me. I've checked the bug tracker and haven't found any bugs relating to this. Anyone have any ideas? –Preceding unsigned comment was added by Agriggs191 (talk • contribs) at 02:59, 5 March 2019 (UTC). Please sign your posts with ~~~~

I'm pretty sure the sunrise/sunset/noon/midnight statement is wrong; I remember seeing it years back and it seeming wrong but I never did more research. It seems odd particularly because of the length of some of the songs. I'm not sure of what the actual behavior is, though. --Pokechu22 (talk) 03:09, 5 March 2019 (UTC)

I've watched those markers pass and heard nothing happen. I think it's essentially random, but I don't know. -PancakeIdentity (talk) 02:33, 20 July 2019 (UTC)

From music_definition.json, Overworld music that play in survival gamemode are based on delay, not based on sunrise/sunset/noon/midnight. When entering the world, music start to play, then another music play after 600-1200 seconds (10-20 minutes), but at least that how music played in Bedrock, maybe different in Java. ImakerB (talk) 23:47, 6 March 2020 (UTC)

30 seconds

As itʼs well known, only 30-second excerpts from music files except “11” are allowed on this wiki. Do they have to be taken from the tracksʼ start, or they can be taken from the middle (that would make sense for tracks like the roughly 10-minute End theme). Also, do they have to be 30 seconds exact, or they can be made shorter (24 seconds, 29.36 seconds)? — BabylonAS ru.Wiki Admin 06:39, 3 August 2019 (UTC)

"Composer" category

With the addition of new music by Lena Raine, should we add a "Composer" category to the table? It's only 3 tracks that are not done by C418, but there might be more.

24.183.113.207 18:35, 8 April 2020 (UTC)

How about music in Minecraft Dungeon, the composer also not by C418. ImakerB (talk) 22:39, 8 April 2020 (UTC)

 Support  Nixinova  T  C  02:42, 9 April 2020 (UTC)

Tracks that aren't by C418

"Note: these tracks previews have been shortened to 30 seconds on the wiki due to an agreement with the author to allow them on the wiki" - This only applies to C418 tracks; what about tracks by other composers (e.g., the 20w15a tracks were made by kuraine^[1])  Nixinova  T  C  02:39, 9 April 2020 (UTC)

I'd say we should attempt to contact her and/or Mojang about it. -PancakeIdentity (talk) 22:48, 10 April 2020 (UTC)

I think all the other, non-C418 tracks should also be 30 seconds—mostly for consistency. ManyOursOfFun (talk) 06:46, 2 June 2022 (UTC)

Track Ordering

The canonical ordering of the aquatic tracks (track number tag in the ogg metadata) is:

1. Shuniji
2. Dragon Fish
3. Axolotl

Should we rearrange them in the article to correspond to the official ordering, or should we keep them alphabetical?
As for the nether update tracks, they don't have track no. tags. What can be gleamed from the ogg metadata is that they were composed in Reaper DAW. (Kuraine has also tweeted about it in the past.) But I think that might be too boring to add to the trivia section. Janjtv (talk) 19:51, 23 April 2020 (UTC)

I would arrange them alphabetically, since this is more intuitive to readers. On top of that, the internal order may be different in Bedrock Edition (Note: These tracks are currently only in the betas). The Blobs 21:03, 23 April 2020 (UTC)

 weak oppose. I think alphabetical makes more sense especially since the internal data is hard to access for most users. -PancakeIdentity (talk) 21:04, 23 April 2020 (UTC)

Lost history of time-indicating music

I've just come back to Minecraft after a year or two's vacation, and noticed a change in the Overworld music that led me back here. I am reasonably sure that until some fairly recent version (at least 1.12 or so), the Overworld music would play four times a day, a random choice after dawn, before sunset, and roughly noon and midnight.

From gameplay in the 1.16 snapshots, it became fairly clear that wasn't happening anymore, and coming back to this page confirms that it's now playing at random times... but looking at the History section, I see no hint that music was ever connected to the passage of time, and that just isn't right. I'm certain it used to be scheduled, because that was in fact useful, being a way to get a loose sense of time even when deep underground. --MentalMouse42 (talk) 13:42, 26 April 2020 (UTC)

I swear I have a distinct impression/memory of all of the Hal tracks indicating sunrise/sunset. Is this true? Do the other names mean anything about the conditions in which songs play / did they used to? Aepokk (talk) 03:45, 27 June 2020 (UTC)

Day-night cycle#Trivia says "Background game music is triggered at specific times of the day-night cycle." 86.61.37.226 16:32, 29 June 2020 (UTC)

Nether vs. Nether Wastes

Regarding the old songs used for the Nether overall, do those still plays sometimes in the Nether Wastes? Or is it only Rubedo now? Also, do these play in the other biomes at all? Aepokk (talk) 22:28, 16 June 2020 (UTC)

Old nether music still play in the Nether, those are not biome specific and played in any Nether biomes except in Warped Forest. There just a chance new nether music played instead of old music. ImakerB (talk) 03:33, 17 June 2020 (UTC)

Thank you for clarifying! I do wonder what the deal is with Warped Forests, anyway... old Nether music not allowed to play there, Lena didn't make a song for the biome... it's all very strange. Aepokk (talk) 04:41, 17 June 2020 (UTC)

What?

So on my phone I was playing minecraft peacefully on my Slime Rancher obby. It's there until I passed the first part, guessing what slime is there. I guessed Rad Slime (because that was the answer) and as soon as I got on the Raddie's radiation ring I heard Cave Sound 14 and when I heard it I quickly exited minecraft. Cave Sound 14 is a creepy loop, and when you view it in a spectogram the image it makes is a Creeper's face! 24.99.194.186 23:00, 12 August 2020 (UTC)

1. it's already documented on the wiki (the creeper part) and 2. the rest makes no sense---Humiebee ^{Discuss anything with me Look at my edits} 23:13, 12 August 2020 (UTC)

I think their talking about modded. --Flames of the nether (talk) 02:21, 8 April 2021 (UTC)

Music pages for other games

There aren't any music pages for the other games, like Earth and Dungeons. I feel like they deserve to have their own pages, as they all have their own exclusive songs, as well as songs ripped from Minecraft. Maybe the soundtrack for both Minecraft Story Mode's seasons and the Legacy Console Edition's Minigames (Battle, Tumble and Glide) deserve their own page(s). FizzyChal (talk) 06:48, 20 October 2020 (UTC)

• don't forget about the mashup packs (tho the crossover ones dont add *new* music the other ones do)

Unneeded/irrelevant Trivia

I was looking at this page when I realized it shows music disc information in the trivia, but this is not a page for music discs. I think that the trivia on music discs should be moved to the page: Music Disc or removed from this page if it is already there. --Awesomedragon29 (talk) 14:32, 9 February 2021 (UTC)

@Awesomedragon29: I agree. I removed some trivia about music discs just now, and moved one to the music disc article. If I missed anything, please remove it. Amatulic (talk) 06:20, 10 February 2021 (UTC)

The music previews don't work!!

Hey, can somebody fix the music previews? I have tried to listen to them on both mobile and computer, but no good. Does anybody else have this same problem? 23.28.31.25 13:09, 12 July 2021 (UTC)

They work just fine for me. Your device has to be able to play .ogg files. Amatulic (talk) 13:16, 12 July 2021 (UTC)

OK thanks, but what are .ogg files, and how do I get them? 23.28.31.25 13:43, 12 July 2021 (UTC)

Ogg is a standard sound file format that is free and not restricted by software patents. It is the standard file format for streaming audio on wiki sites like this one. All you need to do is click the "play" icon in your browser. If you're using an Apple browser it may not work, but I know it works from Chrome and Mozilla. Amatulic (talk) 13:44, 12 July 2021 (UTC)

Ahh, ok. The sad thing is, no matter how much I press the "play" button, it doesn't play... because I'm on a Mac (Apple) and an old iPad (also Apple). But thanks for putting up with me, @Amatulic. 23.28.31.25 13:50, 12 July 2021 (UTC)

You can install VLC Media Player on any platform: Mac, Windows, Linux. VLC can play anything, even DVD iso images. Amatulic (talk) 15:37, 12 July 2021 (UTC)

Caves and Cliffs music update

21:36, 20 October 2021 (UTC)

Went and extracted the 21w42a sounds.json, here's what I found regarding the new album and biome specific music. Bold tracks have a 2x weight to play.

GENERAL OVERWORLD

Comforting Memories

Floating Dream

Left to Bloom

One More Day

MENU

Infinite Amethyst

Left to Bloom

One More Day

Stand Tall

Wending

DRIPSTONE CAVES

An Ordinary Day

hal1 (Subwoofer Lullaby)

hal4 (Danny)

Infinite Amethyst

nuance1 (Key)

nuance2 (Oxygene)

Wending

FROZEN PEAKS

hal1 (Subwoofer Lullaby)

hal2 (Living Mice)

hal3 (Haggstrom)

hal4 (Danny)

piano1 (Dry Hands)

piano2 (Wet Hands)

piano3 (Mice on Venus)

Stand Tall

GROVE

calm1 (Minecraft)

calm2 (Clark)

calm3 (Sweden)

Comforting Memories

Infinite Amethyst

nuance1 (Key)

nuance2 (Oxygene)

piano3 (Mice on Venus)

Wending

JAGGED PEAKS

Floating Dream

hal1 (Subwoofer Lullaby)

hal2 (Living Mice)

nuance1 (Key)

nuance2 (Oxygene)

piano1 (Dry Hands)

piano2 (Wet Hands)

piano3 (Mice on Venus)

Stand Tall

Wending

LUSH CAVES

An Ordinary Day

calm1 (Minecraft)

calm2 (Clark)

calm3 (Sweden)

Floating Dream

Left to Bloom

One More Day

piano3 (Mice on Venus)

MEADOW

hal1 (Subwoofer Lullaby)

hal2 (Living Mice)

hal3 (Haggstrom)

hal4 (Danny)

Left to Bloom

One More Day

Stand Tall

SNOWY SLOPES

An Ordinary Day

hal1 (Subwoofer Lullaby)

hal2 (Living Mice)

hal3 (Haggstrom)

One More Day

Stand Tall

STONY PEAKS

hal1 (Subwoofer Lullaby)

hal2 (Living Mice)

hal3 (Haggstrom)

hal4 (Danny)

piano1 (Dry Hands)

piano2 (Wet Hands)

piano3 (Mice on Venus)

Stand Tall

Wending

Can confirm for release 1.18, Java edition, save for music.overworld.meadow which doesn't contain "Stand Tall." Unsure yet for Bedrock though. ManyOursOfFun (talk) 01:11, 1 December 2021 (UTC)

It has been months since the release of the Caves and Cliffs update's music, and it still has not been added to this page. Can someone do this? 73.37.235.7 01:25, 6 February 2022 (UTC)

Hey

I suggest we merge a section of Music Disc into here and slightly shorten

New Title Song 1.18.12?

Was a new title song added for xbox bedrock in the 1.18.12 update? There was a song I've never heard before that played in the menu. If there was, I would LOVE to know the name of it :] (April 4, 2022)

Reply from wiki user: Tell me how it sounded, and I'll provide you with a honest answer.- majongus doremid, Wiki user, Minecraft music expert (November 27, 2022)

Citation #10 says "Chrysopeia" instead of "Chrysopoeia"

it also takes you to a fake link. – Unsigned comment added by Mouse36 (talk • contribs) at 23:24, 18 April 2022 (UTC). Sign comments with ~~~~

 Fixed. I should also mention that the link is not fake. It’s just the general page that people are taken to on Wikipedia if there is no article associated with a particular word or person or place or thing. BDJP ^(t|c) 06:35, 19 April 2022 (UTC)

Why were other biomes added to the biome-specific tracks?

As far as I'm aware, no official source has ever stated that any of the Caves and Cliffs music tracks play in pre-1.18 biomes, but someone updated the music page with the new Wild Update tracks, and when they did they assigned some of these old biomes to some of the Caves and Cliffs tracks. Sometimes the new music can play in older biomes (check this bug report), but we don't seem to know anything about it other than that it was marked as "works as intended".

Where does this information come from?

Sporkaganza (talk) 02:13, 21 April 2022 (UTC)

Checking the game's files shows that yes, some of the new Caves and Cliffs music are assigned to the event "music.game" and thus play in pre-1.18 biomes. (See also the "Caves and Cliffs music update" section above.) ManyOursOfFun (talk) 04:22, 31 May 2022 (UTC)

Track/Biome assignment history

Have the C418 songs always been applied to specific biomes? If not - for example, if all of the Overworld tracks could play anywhere in the past - then that information should be noted in the page history. I also think we're missing a few sound events in the current Overworld tavle, if SlicedLime's [youtube.com/watch?v=RmJLw6pu9-w 23w17a] video is accurate. I don't want to mess with it myself, as I'm not well versed on looking at the actual game files, which would of course be the most accurate source of information. On that note, we really need to update the history section at the bottom. Do we want to note when tracks are reassigned to biomes (if that has happened), or just when they're added? Aepokk Vulpex (talk) 03:37, 28 April 2023 (UTC)

copyright

make every music 30 secs long 2600:4040:7136:2800:D534:E45:B1D:5BBC 17:07, 27 September 2023 (UTC)

 Support, this should really be common practise on any wiki. - - Harristic / Talk 11:40, 30 September 2023 (UTC)

 Support shortening to 30 secs. ManyOursOfFun (talk) 11:47, 30 September 2023 (UTC)

 Weak oppose, @Sonicwave contacted HelenAngel about the Nether tracks by Lena Raine and we were given the ok by to upload the full versions of those. (see File talk:Pigstep.ogg) And so far we haven't been contacted by Microsoft about that, not even in their letter to discontinue the official wiki agreement. They'd be the ones to be on the your back for violating copyright. By uploading the original game file, we also preserve it. Though I understand that by having it unabridged on the wiki, we're potentially cutting revenue that could have gone to the composers. But then again, they aren't getting the full cut like C418 is. They also don't make an attempt at obfuscating the files, so anyone with the game can get those if they know where to look. So I don't know. I leave it up to the rest of the commentors to decide the morality of that. – Unavailablehoax (talk) 17:17, 30 September 2023 (UTC)

@Unavailablehoax  Comment. That's fair. There are some points I would outline here:

1. It would make the the other music inconsistent with C418's.
2. I'm not sure exactly what how file sizes should be treated in this wiki, but shortening them to 30 seconds would be cut down on their file sizes.
3. I'm still not very comfortable with putting full-length music here for people to download, even if we may have Mojang's back. If people want to extract the unobfuscated files for themselves, I think they themselves should do so.

ManyOursOfFun (talk) 03:15, 1 October 2023 (UTC)

 Oppose (for now) – music by C418 is still owned by C418, whereas the other music in the game is owned by Mojang. As such, we have two different licenses for these two different ownership situations. While C418's license requires us to shorten most music to 30 seconds, this is not a requirement for music owned by Mojang. If you check on YouTube, there's plenty of full reuploads of the new Minecraft tracks there as well. As such I don't think we need to shorten the newer music tracks unless we are requested to do so by Mojang. | violine1101 ^(talk) 21:58, 6 October 2023 (UTC)

 Oppose for now per violine1101. BDJP ^(t|c) 22:13, 6 October 2023 (UTC)

Composers in List subsection?

I often find myself coming to this page's List subsection to find out who made what song. Although every composer is listed in the Composers subsection, the songs that they made are not. This is not the case for the album articles, but this means you have to find a song's album on this page and then go to that album page to find out who composed it.

This seems overcomplicated to me. Maybe the songs' composers could be added to the List subsection? It could be useful to other people and it saves on time, but it could also make the tables too large. Would like to open it to discussion. Camel-cultist (talk) 01:20, 13 November 2023 (UTC)

 Done - CrowdingFaun624 (talk) 03:10, 15 November 2023 (UTC)

Licensing for content creators

Minecraft just published guidelines for using the Minecraft music on YouTube, TikTok, etc. (FINALLY!) and I feel like that is information that a lot of people would be looking for. Perhaps that should be noted here? plighting_engineerd (talk) 19:24, 6 December 2023 (UTC)

Legacy Console Edition Music History

I just want to share some things regarding Legacy Console Edition's history with music. First off, Calm4 is not present in Title Update 1, and was never part of this edition's assets. I looked into this for myself and it is not present in the res/audio/streamed.xwb Xbox Wave Bank file in Title Update 1 of Xbox 360 Edition (as claimed in the history section), nor is it found in the base game (Title Update 0), or any of the few pre-release builds that we have. It is worth mentioning that other unused sound assets, such as the wolf howl and the environment loops, are in the res/audio/resident.xwb file. res/audio/streamed.xwb also contains all music disc files despite cat and 13 being the only implemented discs at launch. Sometime after Title Update 40, although I'm not sure exactly, the audio system for 360 Edition was replaced to utilize BINK Audio files (.BINKA) just like all other Legacy Console Editions (PS3, Wii U, etc.). Calm4 does not appear after this change either, nor in the other editions. Speaking of audio formats, Legacy Console Edition also never used the OGG format. 4J Studios is guilty of using ".ogg" in early changelogs but they were actually Microsoft's custom codec for the Xbox 360, and later became the aforementioned BINKA format, created by RAD Game Tools (now Epic Game Tools since their acquisition by Epic Games). When Title Update 9 added new music to the game, a new res/audio/AdditionalMusic.xwb bank was added for the Nether and End music. Fun fact, by the way, Legacy Console Edition had music for the other dimensions months prior to 2013 Music Update. This could've been done in advance to prepare for the launch of Mass Effect Mash-Up Pack (now known as the N7 Mash-Up Pack) later that year, which contained music from Mass Effect 3 for each dimension, but that's just speculation of course. When the next gen versions of Legacy Console Edition launched in September 2014, they had the rest of the 2013 Music Update implemented, but it played outside of the correct context. Creative and menu tracks would just play regardless of context, as long as the player was in the overworld. I'm not sure if this was a bug, an oversight, or a weird exclusive feature, but it was eventually corrected when the other editions received the full music update with Title Update 25. I'd like to go into the history of Mini Game music too, as well as some more trivia, but I'll wait until I'm allowed to contribute to the page directly, because it's not documented on this page as of now. I know this was a lot at once but I'm on a mission to better document Legacy Console Edition and correct some misinformation while I'm at it! --MattNL (talk) 08:58, 23 January 2024 (UTC)

@MattNL: You should be able to edit now. Please avoid expanding the list of trivia if possible, and read MCW:TRIVIA to learn what is allowed. ~Anachronist (talk) 18:46, 27 January 2024 (UTC)

Sound event music.creative includes music.game

The following refers to the Java Edition sound events.

Many of the sounds labelled as part of the music.creative sound event are actually only there because music.creative includes the music.game sound event (in sounds.json). From testing, it appears that the sound event is loaded in such a way such that the music.game sounds have the same weight as the music explicitly defined in music.creative (i.e. they play just as often). Therefore, for all practical purposes, all the music.game tracks may as well be part of music.creative. However, I would like to somehow clarify this discrepancy in the article but am unsure of the best way to do so. – ZacNVR (talk) 09:16, 30 January 2024 (UTC)

We could add a simple note that says something like "via music.game", would that work? Kationor (talk) 10:37, 30 January 2024 (UTC)

 Done - CrowdingFaun624 (talk) 00:57, 4 February 2024 (UTC)

Warped Forest "empty" sound event is present on both java and bedrock

It is present on both editions, the way the phrase is said makes it seems like it is only present on java. On bedrock it is named "music.game.warped_forest, and it is also "empty". Player947636829 (talk) 13:38, 6 March 2024 (UTC)

Trivia Section: Warped Forest "unused" sound event is not unused and exists for a reason

Warped Forest "unused" sound event is probably not unused, i am not a professional or anything but from what i know, the biome NEEDS that "unused" sound event to be able to not play any music. If that sound event didn't exist, the biome would probably play the default nether music not associated with any biome. That's show to be true, because if you add any track to that sound event it will work. 2804:14C:598A:9135:25C1:7D8D:E04D:9EE5 12:37, 7 March 2024 (UTC)

It's still unused though because no sound exists for it and it is completely unmentioned in sounds.json. However, I suppose it's not useless with regards to what you've mentioned, although I feel that saying that its purpose is to keep the biome devoid of music is speculation unless confirmed by a developer. – ZacNVR (talk) 12:53, 7 March 2024 (UTC)

"Further emphasized" in X biomes

I recently got done with fixing music lists in biomes with tracks from the Tricky Trials update, and one phrase I kept noticing being used for some tracks was "further emphasized in" followed by a list of biomes. I've noticed this before in previous update's soundtracks, and I assumed that this meant that the particular track can play in any biome a la C418's tracks, but they have a higher weight in the listed biomes. But in the 24w18a minecraft.net article, it says "The following have been added to the pool of songs which play in Overworld biomes that do not have biome-specific music:" followed by featherfall, komorebi, puzzlebox, watcher, yakusoku.

When I read this, and then saw the table on 24w18a#Music, I assumed that it meant that these tracks cannot play in any biome with biome-specific music, such as dripstone caves, deep dark, lush caves, badlands, etc (the biomes with new tracks in this update + biomes with emphasized tracks in previous updates) unless otherwise noted, as with featherfall. But someone had already beaten me to the task of adding/fixing music for flower forest and badlands, and they put "further emphasized". Now I'm just curious: is my understanding of "further emphasized" wrong, or do we have evidence in the code that my understanding is correct for this update? Milo359 (talk) 05:57, 21 May 2024 (UTC)

Order of tracks

Are the tracks on this page ordered specifically, or can I sort them by soundtrack/track number? Pellogram (talk) 01:51, 9 July 2024 (UTC)

I think they're ordered alphabetically. But I'm just one person guessing. Nerdyguy2000 (talk) 14:27, 9 July 2024 (UTC)

Main Menu for non-C418 songs?

I have heard many of the newer songs in the main menu. which aren't listed as such. In fact, I have never heard at all some that are marked as playing in the main menu. What's up with that? ApertureUA (talk) 18:47, 15 November 2024 (UTC)

nvm just saw the changelog for 1.21 ApertureUA (talk) 18:51, 15 November 2024 (UTC)

"Creative [JE Only], Survival"

I think this section (for example on puzzlebox.ogg) needs clarified. I'm not sure from the article whether this song:

a) plays only in Creative on Java Edition, and plays in both on Bedrock, or

b) plays only in Survival on Bedrock Edition, and plays in both on Java? Iron Ore (talk) 14:48, 19 January 2025 (UTC)

I've been able to verify these songs do play in Java Survival, so I'm guessing b) is the correct answer. Iron Ore (talk) 16:40, 21 January 2025 (UTC)

Generally the {{only}} template is used when a piece of information only applies to a specific edition, in this case it means "Survival (in both) and Creative (in Java but not in Bedrock)". I agree it's kinda ambiguous.--Capopanzo (talk | contribs) 16:52, 21 January 2025 (UTC)

Uhh

Why is my soundtrack in Minecraft changing to Abolish Herobrine and then I get a jumpscare? 2600:387:15:361B:0:0:0:8 12:02, 19 March 2025 (UTC)