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I have a few ideas for the icons on the main page:

-Brewing: a brewing stand, since you need it to make potions

-Mobs: a creeper, since it's the most iconic mob of Minecraft (and one of the first three things I think of when I hear "Minecraft")

-Blocks: dirt or a grass block, since they are the most common blocks/ stone would work as well, since it covers the entire Overworld

-Items: a stick, since that's probably the first item anyone ever gets in a Survival World

-Biomes: a map, because a map can cover all biomes, therefore symbolizing Biomes

-Structures: a mineshaft, since it's much more common than any other structure/ Nether Portal ruins could work too, if we want to talk multiple dimensions

-MCD Gear: Mystery Armor, because it's easier to remember than the robes

-MCD Heros: Hal, since he's used for the emotes and is therefore shown more in the wiki than Hex

-MCD DLCs: The Jungle Awakens Island, since it was the first DLC/ Creeping Winters is also a good one

-MCD Enchantments: Radiance, since that's the first enchantment I think of when I hear "MCD Enchantments" Kavan (talk) 16:19, 2 February 2025 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Brewing: I don't like the brewing stand idea because we can be a lot more creative with a potion.

Mobs: Too vertical to for with the others.

Blocks: we can be creative with this, so why do something basic?

Items: a stick has almost no shape, it wouldn't fit.

Biomes: doesn't fit.

Structures: doesn't fit and villages are common anyway.

MCD enchantments: that works be weird because there's two versions of that enchant. -~- Nerdyguy2000 Talk Edits 16:50, 2 February 2025 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Come on, man. I'm just telling you what I think makes sense. I still stand with my biomes, structures, brewing, and MCD Enchantment ideas. However:

Mobs: Wither/ Ender Dragon- both are also iconic mobs in Minecraft and only belong to Minecraft. Classic mobs, as well; they've been added before the Nether Update.

Items: Iron Tool: don't know what tool, but iron is a starter item for anyone that doesn't know how to mine. Maybe Iron Sword? I know that's the first item I craft in Minecraft the moment I get iron.

Blocks: I honestly don't know. Bricks are kind of uncommon, and when I play, I rarely get to make them-usually because I can't find any clay. Just saying Bricks are a bad choice. Kavan (talk) 17:00, 2 February 2025 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Sorry, does know how to mine-made a little typo, there. Kavan (talk) 17:01, 2 February 2025 (UTC)Reply[reply]

It's almost like you just want to get rid of the current icons. Diamond pickaxe is perfect for the items icon. Bricks signifies building.

StizzurpXDD^(talk) 17:08, 2 February 2025 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Diamond pickaxe is too valuable in my opinion... -~- Nerdyguy2000 Talk Edits 17:12, 2 February 2025 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Agreed. Plus, sometimes people don't even get to find diamond if they play Hardcore games have the time (like me...) Kavan (talk) 17:14, 2 February 2025 (UTC)Reply[reply]

True, but like I said, bricks are rare to make, since clay is only swamps and isn't really used in Minecraft building that much. Kavan (talk) 17:20, 2 February 2025 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Actually clay is found just about anywhere. Look at the page. -~- Nerdyguy2000 Talk Edits 17:21, 2 February 2025 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Mobs- I don't think the dragon would fit too well, being the largest mob and all that. Plus the wither is something hardly anyone even sees.

Items- how about an iron ingot?

Blocks- true, but I think bricks are still recognizable. -~- Nerdyguy2000 Talk Edits 17:06, 2 February 2025 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Ok...

Mobs: wither skeleton or blaze, since they are also fairly iconic-blaze being unique to Minecraft while the wither skeleton is used to make the wither

Items: good enough, if you ask me; iron ingot is an item, after all

Blocks: this one I will never agree on-like I said, bricks are not that iconic, and even if they were, unless you spawn in a swamp, you'll have a rough time finding clay to make them. What about a type of wood planks? Maybe acadia or oak? Kavan (talk) 17:11, 2 February 2025 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Oak planks isn't a bad idea, though I won't keep arguing over bricks. -~- Nerdyguy2000 Talk Edits 17:12, 2 February 2025 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Other idea: raw iron has more shape, so... -~- Nerdyguy2000 Talk Edits 17:14, 2 February 2025 (UTC)Reply[reply]

true Kavan (talk) 17:14, 2 February 2025 (UTC)Reply[reply]

In my opinion, all the icons are good as they are, but the cherry leaves should be updated to pale oak leaves, leaf litter or a Firefly Bush.

StizzurpXDD^(talk) 17:04, 2 February 2025 (UTC)Reply[reply]

I think those are kind of new though, maybe go with older blocks? -~- Nerdyguy2000 Talk Edits 17:07, 2 February 2025 (UTC)Reply[reply]

There should be no problem with featuring new blocks/items if they look good.

StizzurpXDD^(talk) 17:20, 2 February 2025 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Except for the fact that they're rare and unknown? -~- Nerdyguy2000 Talk Edits 17:21, 2 February 2025 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Well, if it's rare, then I get your point; if they're common, however, I don't see any problem with making it an icon, since it'll be known eventually. Kavan (talk) 17:24, 2 February 2025 (UTC)Reply[reply]

It really depends on which icon, plus a balance is good. -~- Nerdyguy2000 Talk Edits 17:28, 2 February 2025 (UTC)Reply[reply]

I'd actually rather we never discussed the icons again for the foreseeable future unless a change is deeply necessary, and no change should be necessary because we've already had such extensive discussions about it. - Harristic / Talk

17:09, 2 February 2025 (UTC)Reply[reply]

I'm just trying to help with the icons, and some just don't make sense in their category. Kavan (talk) 17:12, 2 February 2025 (UTC)Reply[reply]

You haven't explained which don't make sense. Some could be changed to make a bit more sense, but I don't want us to keep changing these icons every month or so, they've changed so much already. - Harristic / Talk

17:14, 2 February 2025 (UTC)Reply[reply]

That's true, we should wait at least one more month before changing anything. -~- Nerdyguy2000 Talk Edits 17:15, 2 February 2025 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Yeah, I can tell. It's just that some icons only symbolize a certain part of that subject (ie, a potion for brewing when it should be a brewing stand to symbolize all of the brewing things). Kavan (talk) 17:16, 2 February 2025 (UTC)Reply[reply]

I disagree. If anybody doesn't like something on the homepage, or someone has a suggestion which could benefit it, there should be no restrictions on it.

StizzurpXDD^(talk) 17:22, 2 February 2025 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Exactly. Like I said, I'm just trying to be helpful. Kavan (talk) 17:23, 2 February 2025 (UTC)Reply[reply]

But we shouldn't be changing these every two seconds. -~- Nerdyguy2000 Talk Edits 17:28, 2 February 2025 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Well, fair enough, but I only changed them twice on the edit copy; then I stopped, because there's no point in doing it again and again if it's just going to be undone. How about we discuss until next week or something like that to find out what icons we want? Kavan (talk) 17:30, 2 February 2025 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Let's let everyone join in and wait for more opinions, shall we? -~- Nerdyguy2000 Talk Edits 17:35, 2 February 2025 (UTC)Reply[reply]

There is no restriction, I think any change at this point will have a practically non-existent benefit and that having this discussion so often is not great. I appreciate Kavan trying to help, I only think any change is not needed. - Harristic / Talk

17:35, 2 February 2025 (UTC)Reply[reply]

I know, it's just that as a new member, I know that if I came to the wiki today and Isaw the icons I would wonder why it's not an icon that could encompass all of that subject. Kavan (talk) 17:37, 2 February 2025 (UTC)Reply[reply]

I really don't think this is something that lots of people pay attention to or think about. If an icon didn't make sense, more people would think about it, but they all make sense. Some could make slightly more sense, but that is negligible. - Harristic / Talk

17:41, 2 February 2025 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Fair point. It's just that some could be made to make more sense (ie, one type of potion only symbolizes that potion, but a brewing stand symbolizes all of brewing). Kavan (talk) 17:45, 2 February 2025 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Maybe we can discuss this, but not change anything? -~- Nerdyguy2000 Talk Edits 17:37, 2 February 2025 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Then what's the point? Or are you saying don't change anything until a certain point in time? Kavan (talk) 17:39, 2 February 2025 (UTC)Reply[reply]

I mean we should make sure that we have consensus but not change stuff every five seconds, y'know? -~- Nerdyguy2000 Talk Edits 17:40, 2 February 2025 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Yeah I know. I didn't say change every five seconds; I was saying wait for people to get in this discussion and discuss the icons that make sense by a certain time, and which should be added. Kavan (talk) 17:42, 2 February 2025 (UTC)Reply[reply]

I actually have to are with you on the brewing stand; the bottle color on the potion isn't the best. Also, maybe enchanting should be an enchanted book. -~- Nerdyguy2000 Talk Edits 17:56, 2 February 2025 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Enchanting...gotta say, no. Enchanting tables encompass enchanting, unless you're talking about the weapon+anvil mechanism. Kavan (talk) 17:58, 2 February 2025 (UTC)Reply[reply]

With anvils it's actually more stuff than the enchanting table, like stuff that's already enchanted. -~- Nerdyguy2000 Talk Edits 18:00, 2 February 2025 (UTC)Reply[reply]

hmmm...fair enough. Kavan (talk) 18:01, 2 February 2025 (UTC)Reply[reply]

I actually think the most common/iconic thing of the category should be the icon, like grass block for Block, iron pickaxe (or any pickaxe) for Item, plains or forest for Biome, and a desert temple or village for structure. I'm not sure about Brewing, because I think potions themselves and brewing stands are equally important. I don't play MCD that much so I'm not sure about those. --MinecraftExp123^{(talk|contribs)} 07:20, 3 February 2025 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Also shouldn't this be part of the discussion up top? Why is it necessary to create a new section? --MinecraftExp123^{(talk|contribs)} 07:21, 3 February 2025 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Are you aware of how long this section is on it's own? I just thought this would be easier for everyone to access inside of trying to find this in the middle of that hive of activity. Kavan (talk) 16:16, 3 February 2025 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Well, I mean it's just gonna be more complicated if that other topic is still active. Did you notice that people are still posting in the other section? It just makes things overcomplicated and harder to find the discussions. I don't think we're supposed to start a new topic about the same thing until the old one is closed with {{close topic}}. --MinecraftExp123^{(talk|contribs)} 03:12, 4 February 2025 (UTC)Reply[reply]

By people still making comments, do you mean pretty much just me? It's mostly inactive. -~- Nerdyguy2000 Talk Edits 03:14, 4 February 2025 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Yeah. And also that Kavan himself wrote "lol why". --MinecraftExp123^{(talk|contribs)} 03:16, 4 February 2025 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Well, I agree that discussion with continue in the old topic but we didn't necessarily need to do anything with this topic. -~- Nerdyguy2000 Talk Edits 03:24, 4 February 2025 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Well, that's because I was wondering why the random suggestion was a fletching table. Then again, it is random for a reason... Kavan (talk) 17:44, 4 February 2025 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Oppose changing icons once again, they were changed just a few months ago.--Capopanzo (talk | contribs) 18:29, 3 February 2025 (UTC)Reply[reply]

So? I'm not saying change them now, just figure out which icons would serve best and then eventually act on it. Kavan (talk) 18:42, 3 February 2025 (UTC)Reply[reply]

And continue this discussion till then? If you don't want them to change right now or you know that they wouldn't change right now, what is the point of the discussion at this time? You can make another discussion when you feel like they should be changed right then. -

StizzurpXDD^(talk) 03:36, 4 February 2025 (UTC)Reply[reply]

But discussions take time! -~- Nerdyguy2000 Talk Edits 03:41, 4 February 2025 (UTC)Reply[reply]

I'm not denying it. It is just that it shouldn't be that long for such a minor change. Also, why can't this discussion take place when we need to change the icons instead of starting a discussion to change the icon in the future? -

StizzurpXDD^(talk) 03:44, 4 February 2025 (UTC)Reply[reply]

I agree with your point. I don't get why are we discussing to change an icon when we're not actually going to change it? --MinecraftExp123^{(talk|contribs)} 04:59, 4 February 2025 (UTC)Reply[reply]

God, so much drama while I was getting some shut-eye. Plus, the whole point of a discussion is to plan; that's why it's a discussion for the future-like all discussions. Kavan (talk) 16:07, 4 February 2025 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Agreed, man. It takes time, and if we want those icons to stay the way they are, we'll need a long discussion where everyone settles on what should be best as an icon. That simple. Kavan (talk) 17:43, 4 February 2025 (UTC)Reply[reply]

User:Kavan – Minecraft Wiki Click link to go to my user page, which has the (new and improved) suggestions for icons. Discuss if you want. Kavan (talk) 16:47, 7 February 2025 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Okay, I think we should revive this discussion, because the main page is being redesigned and we should probably get all the changes over with at one time. Any ideas? -~- Nerdyguy2000 Talk Edits 00:03, 8 March 2025 (UTC)Reply[reply]

i agree with the brewing icon

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03:55, 8 March 2025 (UTC)Reply[reply]

A box for AMCM?

Weekly Polls

Latest comment: 7 February23 comments9 people in discussion

I suggest adding weekly polls to the main page. Our wiki supports the AJAX Poll extension and to implement this we would need to add the style to the poll table and slightly change the main page markup. Weekly polls will encourage people to visit the wiki weekly and thus help the wiki by increasing its traffic and making it appear higher in Google Search. I took this idea from the RuneScape Wiki main page where it is nicely implemented. — MetroKopUA (talk) 02:08, 6 February 2025 (UTC)Reply[reply]

I like this idea, but I'll do what I usually do in big discussions and wait for replies before adding my support. -~- Nerdyguy2000 Talk Edits 02:15, 6 February 2025 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Is there enough space for this? We already have Minecraft Dungeons and Legends on the second row, and possibly, moving Did you know box very bottom per Main Page/editcopy. Outrowed (talk) 02:23, 6 February 2025 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Well, as I can see on Minecraft Wiki/editcopy, we have just enough space to put the poll at the very right of the did you know section. We can use 2/3 of the horizontal space for the "did you know" section and 1/3 for the poll. But yet we don't have enough comments to make any decisions so it is worth to listen to others opinions. —

MetroKopUA (talk) 02:28, 6 February 2025 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Just saying, I'll be strongly opposing this if it's not mobile friendly. -~- Nerdyguy2000 Talk Edits 02:34, 6 February 2025 (UTC)Reply[reply]

On the runescape wiki polls are wrapped with div.nomobile. But, according to my (tests on that wiki) polls work just fine on mobile if you add styles. —

MetroKopUA (talk) 02:42, 6 February 2025 (UTC)Reply[reply]

I was about to ask this since I didn't see it while browsing their main page in mobile. Outrowed (talk) 02:43, 6 February 2025 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Support QuickWhitt7 (Talk) 02:38, 6 February 2025 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Support. — 3A | T C 02:44, 6 February 2025 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Support if there is mobile-friendly UI for it, not just a copy-paste from the desktop UI. Otherwise,

Soft oppose. Outrowed (talk) 02:48, 6 February 2025 (UTC)Reply[reply]

FYI although the wiki does support a ajaxpoll it's in a broken state. GIM Dianliang233 (talk) 02:50, 6 February 2025 (UTC)Reply[reply]

What exactly is broken? Are you talking about the styles that might be hard to set up. Or about bad working JS? —

MetroKopUA (talk) 03:15, 6 February 2025 (UTC)Reply[reply]

All anonymous users are treated as one user. GIM Dianliang233 (talk) 03:25, 6 February 2025 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Ah. That'd be a problem. Most readers don't have accounts. -~- Nerdyguy2000 Talk Edits 03:27, 6 February 2025 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Also, what kind of polls will there be? Like, what kind of questions? -~- Nerdyguy2000 Talk Edits 02:53, 6 February 2025 (UTC)Reply[reply]

It's an interesting question. As I previously mentioned the reason for adding polls is to encourage people to visit the wiki weekly so we are not making polls for collecting data. I would recommend making polls about minecraft (e.g. "what edition do you play on?"). But first thing we should figure out is if it is possible to add styles that poll looks just fine on both desktop and mobile. —

MetroKopUA (talk) 02:58, 6 February 2025 (UTC)Reply[reply]

I see. But the edition thing is useful info, just saying. -~- Nerdyguy2000 Talk Edits 03:05, 6 February 2025 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Oppose - The RuneScape wiki doesn't have a weekly poll by a long shot. Their most recent poll was created on 4 September 2024, more than 5 months ago. This highlights that the poll feature is not something that can attract users for a long time. Also, the main motive for readers coming to this wiki is to seek information. The only ones who will actually participate or even care about these polls are the editors, and adding something to the wiki's main page just for the editors does not sit well with me.

Additionally, the poll would have to be implemented on both PC and mobile, and for that, it would need to change the placement of several boxes to make it fit in. You suggested that it can be placed beside the "Did you know" section. The downside to this is that the poll is not something most traffic will be coming for in the wiki, and placing it so far down the page would even miss the editors who would have been likely to participate if it were placed above. -

StizzurpXDD^(talk) 03:59, 6 February 2025 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Now that you've mentioned it, since the poll is likely going to attract more editors than the readers, a more appropriate place for that would be the Wiki Discord server rather than the main page. Outrowed (talk) 04:41, 6 February 2025 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Well, many somewhat active editors (including myself) don't have a Discord account, and that might not help the wiki appear higher in Google Search if it isn't actually part of the wiki. --MinecraftExp123^{(talk|contribs)} 13:41, 6 February 2025 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Support as it's a great idea in general. --MinecraftExp123^{(talk|contribs)} 13:40, 6 February 2025 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Oppose- what's the point of it? Just to attract users? That's not really a good idea, since what do the polls do to attract them in the first place? And why do we need to get more people on the wiki? If someone's interested in Minecraft, they'll go to the fandom or the wiki.

Kavan (talk) 16:16, 6 February 2025 (UTC)Reply[reply]

I mean, I think it encourages editors, not readers, to do something every week and be more active. This would be traffic, which makes this wiki higher in SEO. --MinecraftExp123^{(talk|contribs)} 02:54, 7 February 2025 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Redesign survey

Latest comment: 6 February14 comments6 people in discussion

There have been many suggestions on the main page that just wouldn't fit our current format. Thus a redesign might be needed. To see how our readers think about this, I've created a survey: [1]. I plan to add the survey link to the main page, site notice, and Discord #news channel by the end of this week. Suggestions to the question would be appreciated. GIM Dianliang233 (talk) 04:26, 6 February 2025 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Options should go from "very unnecessary" on the left to "very useful" on the right, to be consistent with the very difficult/very easy questions. Other than that the survey seems pretty good.--Capopanzo (talk | contribs) 13:47, 6 February 2025 (UTC)Reply[reply]

One question: For how long would you keep this survey active? -

StizzurpXDD^(talk) 13:48, 6 February 2025 (UTC)Reply[reply]

I think two to three weeks would be a good amount of time. GIM Dianliang233 (talk) 13:50, 6 February 2025 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Looks good to me! I think it will be helpful. - Harristic / Talk

13:53, 6 February 2025 (UTC)Reply[reply]

That's a good idea. Good info could come from this. I have many opinions on the things, but I also think that the "how easy do you think it is to navigate the page" and the mobile question are a little redundant, maybe for the first day that it's desktop and give an "I don't know, I'm not on <mobile/desktop>" for those. -~- Nerdyguy2000 Talk Edits 14:48, 6 February 2025 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Why do we need the survey? I can't access the survey for some reason, so I don't know what it says and what's the point of it. Kavan (talk) 16:20, 6 February 2025 (UTC)Reply[reply]

It's about how useful do people find the current main page sections, what they would like see changed, and what they would like to see removed. I've especially included a question about splitting the MP into portals. GIM Dianliang233 (talk) 17:08, 6 February 2025 (UTC)Reply[reply]

I've improved the survey by adding images and adding/removing some questions. Please (re)check the survey and leave your thoughts about it here! GIM Dianliang233 (talk) 17:07, 6 February 2025 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Thanks for the message! (It's really quiet today...) Two things:

I still can't check the survey. It just says "error" whenever I wait for it to load. So, sorry, can't do anything there. Suggestion: Make a user page that's editable and can be edited by making comments, etc, and some could even make new questions for you to consider.
Could you explain the survey a little bit more? I woke up about an hour ago and I can barely think straight, so my usual cleverness is a little out of control.

Kavan (talk) 17:13, 6 February 2025 (UTC)Reply[reply]

"How visually pleasing is the current main page design?" should have the negative option on the left (1) and the positive option on the right (5).--Capopanzo (talk | contribs) 17:18, 6 February 2025 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Wait, let me guess: the survey is for an entire reconstruction of the main page? Oh. Well,

Soft Support; not everything about the main page system is bad, but it could use some changing.

Strong Support if you're willing to make, like, a project on this-add people to the project, make different types of designs, etc. Kavan (talk) 17:30, 6 February 2025 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Made a User Page; when I'm done making revision, can you turn into a project page for the main page redesigning project? Kavan (talk) 17:37, 6 February 2025 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Never mind, I can't do anything yet. Kavan (talk) 17:43, 6 February 2025 (UTC)Reply[reply]

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Icon discussion

Question

Request to remove old news items

What About Novels?

Videos on some pages

Icon Discussion (Continued): Replacing Icons Idea

A box for AMCM?

Weekly Polls

Redesign survey

New Gadget Types

Minecraft Media Section Progress

"For legal reasons you CANNOT put "the Minecraft Wiki" here" (Minecraft Wiki/editcopy)

12-Eyed portal trivia is wrong

Redesign discussion on forum

Irregular placement of game tiles in main page header on mobile devices

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