Editing Talk:Advancement

== Specific Data On Advancements / Upcoming Data ==
I've got a post on reddit (can't post link figuring I'm technically a new user) wherein I'm doing some investigation into what Advancements are currently capable of, and what they might do in the future. Does anyone have any interest in getting this info on the Wiki, and if so, how do you want me to go about it? It's all hyper-technical info, so should it go on another page? [[User:Calmbit|Calmbit]] ([[User talk:Calmbit|talk]]) 22:43, 31 March 2017 (UTC)
: Go ahead, put the link. If it doesn't let you, just put it as plaintext, and leave off the Reddit.com part.
: The more the merrier. Although we can't have speculation on the wiki. But hard knowledge of what's possible, and syntax, and existing advancements, that would all be welcome. Give us a link and then let's discuss. – [[User:Sealbudsman| Sealbudsman]] <span style="transform: rotate(-16deg); display: inline-block; top: -1px; position: relative;"><sup>[[User talk:Sealbudsman|talk]]</sup>/<sub>[[Special:Contributions/Sealbudsman|contr]]</sub></span> 23:36, 31 March 2017 (UTC)
::Here's the link to the post: https://www.reddit.com/r/Minecraft/comments/62ie4k/17w13a_advancements_infodata/
::No speculation, mostly raw discussion and dissection about the syntax of the advancements JSON files. – [[User:Calmbit|Calmbit]] ([[User talk:Calmbit|talk]]) 01:38, 1 April 2017 (UTC)

::: In addition, {{ping|Skylinerw}} has some great info on the new advancements in his post on the Forums: http://www.minecraftforum.net/forums/minecraft-discussion/redstone-discussion-and/command-blocks/2809368-1-12-custom-advancements-aka-achievements - it would be great if this wiki page could be fleshed out more.  <span class="nowrap">–[[User:Goandgoo|<b style="color:#282">Goandgoo</b>]] ᐸ <small style="display:inline-block;line-height:1em;vertical-align:-0.4em">[[User talk:Goandgoo|Talk]]<br>[[Special:Contribs/Goandgoo|Contribs]]</small></span> 10:43, 2 April 2017 (UTC)
Hey guys, did anyone notice the "bring a ghast '''home'''" to the overworld? maybe in trivia?

== About the meanings of "Advancement" ==

Mojang changed "Achievements" to "Advancements", and the Chinese translator team is having trouble deciding the translation of the new name. So I figured I'd ask for you guys' ideas on this change - '''What is the subtle difference?''' Just talk about it English-wise, it can help us determine the Chinese translation. [[User:JackAlpha26|JackAlpha26]] ([[User talk:JackAlpha26|talk]]) 07:05, 9 April 2017 (UTC)
:If I had to guess, "advancement" is meant in terms of progress, like "technological advancement" [[Special:Contributions/73.225.24.71|73.225.24.71]] 07:20, 9 April 2017 (UTC)
::OK thank you. More people come in and discuss plz? I would like to collect some more thoughts. [[User:JackAlpha26|JackAlpha26]] ([[User talk:JackAlpha26|talk]]) 07:26, 9 April 2017 (UTC)
: If I achieve something, it has a connotation of hard work, and completion.
: If I advance, it simply means I've moved forward. – [[User:Sealbudsman| Sealbudsman]] <span style="transform: rotate(-16deg); display: inline-block; top: -1px; position: relative;"><sup>[[User talk:Sealbudsman|talk]]</sup>/<sub>[[Special:Contributions/Sealbudsman|contr]]</sub></span> 15:20, 9 April 2017 (UTC)

:OK! Two answers suggesting the same meaning now. Also our own discussion led to the same preference earlier today. Thanks all, hopefully we can figure out a name soon : ) ——[[User:JackAlpha26|JackAlpha26]] ([[User talk:JackAlpha26|talk]]) 15:56, 9 April 2017 (UTC)
:: &#x1f44d; I don't know any Chinese, but if you can share the results in any meaningful way, I'd be interested! – [[User:Sealbudsman| Sealbudsman]] <span style="transform: rotate(-16deg); display: inline-block; top: -1px; position: relative;"><sup>[[User talk:Sealbudsman|talk]]</sup>/<sub>[[Special:Contributions/Sealbudsman|contr]]</sub></span> 17:23, 9 April 2017 (UTC)
::: Sure! Currently the majority of us are tending towards a word close to "progress". I'll keep track of further discussions, and when we make advancements I can tell you about it :D This kind of game feature names need to be translated carefully, can take some time ——[[User:JackAlpha26|JackAlpha26]] ([[User talk:JackAlpha26|talk]]) 04:20, 10 April 2017 (UTC)

== Advancement "Serious Dedication" bug. ==

The current requirement for "Serious Dedication" is to break any tool. This is considered a bug however and will be fixed on release (https://bugs.mojang.com/browse/MC-117001). Should this be mentioned on the page or should we wait till it has been fixed?
--[[User:PepijnMC|PepijnMC]] ([[User talk:PepijnMC|talk]]) 19:01, 8 May 2017 (UTC)
: Sure! I put it in. – [[User:Sealbudsman| Sealbudsman]] <span style="transform: rotate(-16deg); display: inline-block; top: -1px; position: relative;"><sup>[[User talk:Sealbudsman|talk]]</sup>/<sub>[[Special:Contributions/Sealbudsman|contr]]</sub></span> 22:25, 8 May 2017 (UTC)
: Just an update, the bug in question has been fixed. --[[User:PepijnMC|Pepijn]] ([[User talk:PepijnMC|talk]]) 22:40, 11 May 2017 (UTC)

== Conditions ==

The condition list is lacking a lot of stuff but it will become a mess if we list every possible conditions with all its "sub-conditions" (Like a real mess, see https://pastebin.com/zjJZsmNY ). So what do you people reckon would be the best solution?--[[User:PepijnMC|Pepijn]] ([[User talk:PepijnMC|talk]]) 22:53, 10 May 2017 (UTC)

:If someone could make a mockup of a wiki-formatted, comprehensive condition list, we could start thinking/talking about ways to present it better. It's a distinct possibility that there are potential presentations that could commnicate all of the necessary information without being an unusable mess. <span class="nowrap">「[[User:Dinoguy1000|<span style="color:#00f">ディノ</span><span style="color:#080">奴</span>]][[Special:Contributions/Dinoguy1000|<span style="color:#F90">千？！</span>]]」<sup>[[wikipedia:Help:IJP|?]] · [[User talk:Dinoguy1000#top|☎ Dinoguy1000]]</sup></span> 00:01, 11 May 2017 (UTC)

::This is what I have so far https://pastebin.com/F6wr0Zeg. I think it includes everything, but I could have made some mistakes of course just because of the sheer quantity of text (and the fact that I made it late at night).--[[User:PepijnMC|Pepijn]] ([[User talk:PepijnMC|talk]]) 03:17, 11 May 2017 (UTC)

::As you can see there's a lot of repeating parts, so maybe it's an idea to only specify those parts once and refer back to them? --[[User:PepijnMC|Pepijn]] ([[User talk:PepijnMC|talk]]) 22:36, 11 May 2017 (UTC)

:I went ahead and updated the list and just made it collapsed for now. If someone has a better idea, please let us know (or just go ahead and change it of course). --[[User:PepijnMC|Pepijn]] ([[User talk:PepijnMC|talk]]) 17:08, 15 May 2017 (UTC)

::Is there a way we can make a treeview with multiple collapsible branches instead of just the entire thing collapsing? [[User:Oozebull|Oozebull]] ([[User talk:Oozebull|talk]]) 21:08, 15 May 2017 (UTC)

:::Yes, loadpage'd sections are used extensively on [[chunk format]] (and any page involving NBT inheritance). It looks not too difficult to modify collapsible to support lists too (collapsible table rows are already supported, which basically works the same as nested lists). <span class=nowrap>–[[User:Majr|Majr]] ᐸ <small style=display:inline-block;line-height:9px;vertical-align:-3px>[[User talk:Majr|Talk]]<br>[[Special:Contribs/Majr|Contribs]]</small> 12:27, 16 May 2017 (UTC)</span>

::: I've updated the condition list to include nbt inherited sections now. --[[User:PepijnMC|Pepijn]] ([[User talk:PepijnMC|talk]]) 12:44, 7 June 2017 (UTC)

== Tamable mobs ==

{{ping|MinecraftPhotos4U|pepijnMC}}, If we could use [[:Category:Tameable mobs|Category:Tamable mobs]] to DPL-generate the list, it would be more maintainable. I was just thinking if they change the requirements of the food advancement, for instance, it's obvious and someone will update this page immediately.  But if they add a tamable mob, we'll probably forget to update this -- if it's a static list. That's all I was thinking. – [[User:Sealbudsman| Sealbudsman]] <span style="transform: rotate(-16deg); display: inline-block; top: -1px; position: relative;"><sup>[[User talk:Sealbudsman|talk]]</sup>/<sub>[[Special:Contributions/Sealbudsman|contr]]</sub></span> 01:32, 11 May 2017 (UTC)

== Advancement Rewards ==

How should we show that an advancements grants rewards? For most advancements this isn't an issue, but this new one "How Did We Get Here?" added in [[1.12-pre2]] currently has a reward of 100 experience. This might be the only one that currently grants a reward, but there might be more in the future. - [[User:Oozebull|Oozebull]] ([[User talk:Oozebull|talk]]) 15:59, 11 May 2017 (UTC)
: Another column in the table? – [[User:Sealbudsman| Sealbudsman]] <span style="transform: rotate(-16deg); display: inline-block; top: -1px; position: relative;"><sup>[[User talk:Sealbudsman|talk]]</sup>/<sub>[[Special:Contributions/Sealbudsman|contr]]</sub></span> 16:08, 11 May 2017 (UTC)

: Someone will have to edit the advancement template. https://minecraft.gamepedia.com/Template:Advancements. --[[User:PepijnMC|Pepijn]] ([[User talk:PepijnMC|talk]]) 18:07, 11 May 2017 (UTC)

:: I can take a look at that once i'm done slogging though what i'm currently doing --[[User:Oozebull|Oozebull]] ([[User talk:Oozebull|talk]]) 18:08, 11 May 2017 (UTC)

::: {{c|done}}. I've added it to the table. –  [[User:ItsPlantseed|ItsPlantseed]] ⟨[[User talk:ItsPlantseed|₰]]|[[Special:Contribs/ItsPlantseed|₢]]⟩ 08:49, 12 May 2017 (UTC)

== "Prerequisite" term in header is misleading ==

"Prerequisite" implies that it is required in order to get the advancement, when in fact advancements can be obtained in any order regardless of parenting. As such, I propose that some more accurate word be used instead. Maybe "Parent"? [[User:Qwertyuiopthepie|Qwertyuiopthepie]] ([[User talk:Qwertyuiopthepie|talk]]) 10:45, 12 May 2017 (UTC)

:'Parent' sounds good to me. [[User:PepijnMC|Pepijn]] ([[User talk:PepijnMC|talk]]) 11:27, 12 May 2017 (UTC)

== [[Template:Load advancements|Load advancements]] pointless empty categories fixed ==

Before the templates can read categories for each advancements properly, they won't be shown in pages other than Advancements (regardless of their namespaces).[[User:A20001017|'''<small><span style="font-family:Minecraft">a20001017</span></small>''']]<sup>[[User_talk:a20001017|Talk]]</sup> 08:07, 14 May 2017 (UTC)

== What will happen with an old (pre 1.12) when this is updated? ==

There is missing some text about how this will deal with an older saved file. Perhaps should we add the "advancement revoke <player> everything" as a suggestion for anyone wanting to wipe clean and try this after update? /[[Special:Contributions/83.255.21.112|83.255.21.112]] 20:42, 30 May 2017 (UTC)

:Advancements are a completely new system, old worlds from 1.11 or below will have no advancements completed. The command to revoke every advancement is already mentioned on [[Commands#advancement]] anyway. I don't think specfific information like this is necessary here. --[[User:PepijnMC|Pepijn]] ([[User talk:PepijnMC|talk]]) 21:08, 30 May 2017 (UTC)

== Hidding part of the condition tree ==

There's a lot of conditions available and the tree is too big. Isn't it possible to hide compound's content by default? It allows people to only see full data of specific conditions without having to scroll forever. I tried something on my [http://minecraft.gamepedia.com/User:Mlakuss?profile=no personal page], but there may be better solutions. --[[User:Mlakuss|Mlakuss]] ([[User talk:Mlakuss|talk]]) 09:13, 2 June 2017 (UTC)

:See [[Talk:Advancement#Conditions|Talk:Advancements#Conditions]]. --[[User:PepijnMC|Pepijn]] ([[User talk:PepijnMC|talk]]) 11:35, 2 June 2017 (UTC)

== Trigger and conditions list ==

Currently, the triggers are displayed in a table and the conditions are listed in a huge pile even though not all conditions can be used at once but depend on which trigger is used (which also changes the description of conditions such a distance). I suggest to change the table and the list of conditions to a section for each trigger with its description and an available condition list (an example can be seen on my [https://minecraft.gamepedia.com/User:PepijnMC?profile=no userpage]). --[[User:PepijnMC|Pepijn]] ([[User talk:PepijnMC|talk]]) 13:15, 7 June 2017 (UTC)

: I think you make a good case. – [[User:Sealbudsman| Sealbudsman]] <span style="transform: rotate(-16deg); display: inline-block; top: -1px; position: relative;"><sup>[[User talk:Sealbudsman|talk]]</sup>/<sub>[[Special:Contributions/Sealbudsman|contr]]</sub></span> 18:41, 7 June 2017 (UTC)

:The only problem I see is that it adds a bunch to the "table of contents". I don't know if it's considered a major problem or if it can be "fixed".  --[[User:PepijnMC|Pepijn]] ([[User talk:PepijnMC|talk]]) 18:52, 7 June 2017 (UTC)

:: If you wanted to hide the headers from the TOC, you can do the semicolon trick, like <code><nowiki>; minecraft:bred_animals</nowiki></code>.  On the other hand, having a TOC that includes that, I think that's appropriate, except definitely floated to the right, using <code><nowiki>{{TOC|right}}</nowiki></code>.  – [[User:Sealbudsman| Sealbudsman]] <span style="transform: rotate(-16deg); display: inline-block; top: -1px; position: relative;"><sup>[[User talk:Sealbudsman|talk]]</sup>/<sub>[[Special:Contributions/Sealbudsman|contr]]</sub></span> 20:01, 7 June 2017 (UTC)

== Which pre-1.12 achievements did not become advancements? ==

I'm trying to figure out which achievements did not become advancements, and whether or not they could be re-added either as an advancement with an advancement json file, or as a function to be called by the gameLoopFunction gamerule. I feel like this should be in the trivia for either advancements or achievements, but I'm finding it hard to view the old list of achievements within the Minecraft wiki, as the table listing the achievements and what platforms they are available for do not mention the PC version, even in older versions of the page. [[User:NickNackGus|NickNackGus]] ([[User talk:NickNackGus|talk]]) 01:55, 12 June 2017 (UTC)

:The first 34 achievements (up to and including Overpowered) were in the PC edition. The rest were not. -- [[:en:User:Orthotope|Orthotope]]<sup>[[User talk:Orthotope|talk]]</sup> 02:30, 12 June 2017 (UTC)

:: This should probably be mentioned in [[Achievements#History]]. —[[User:Fenhl|Fenhl]] 00:57, 13 June 2017 (UTC)

I'm not confident in editing the wiki myself, but here is what I've got. Feel free to edit this, as I highly doubt it is acceptable in its current form. I don't care if it winds up in the Achievements page or the Advancements page, so move it as you see fit. [[User:NickNackGus|NickNackGus]] ([[User talk:NickNackGus|talk]]) 01:13, 13 June 2017 (UTC)

Achievements from PC
{{-}}
{| class="wikitable sortable" data-description="Achievements That Did Not Become Advancements"
!| Name
!| Advancement Trigger
! class="unsortable" | Notes
|-
!| Taking Inventory
|| Not Possible
|| It is not possible to detect if a player has their inventory open with advancements, but the tutorial toast when first loading a world handles this
|-
!| Getting Wood
|| minecraft:inventory_changed
||
|-
!| Time to Farm!
|| minecraft:inventory_changed
||
|-
!| Bake Bread
|| minecraft:inventory_changed
||
|-
!| The Lie
|| minecraft:inventory_changed
||
|-
!| Time to Strike!
|| minecraft:inventory_changed
||
|-
!| Cow Tipper
|| minecraft:player_killed_entity
||
|-
!| Repopulation
|| minecraft:bred_animals
|| Used to be only cows, replaced by The Parrots and the Bats, which includes any breedable mobs
|-
!| When Pigs Fly
|| Not Possible
|| Requires a check for whether or not the player is riding an entity
|-
!| Time to Mine
|| minecraft:inventory_changed
| |Replaced by Stone Age, which depends on getting cobblestone, not on a pickaxe
|-
!| Overpowered
|| minecraft:consume_item
|| Is a prerequisite for A Balanced Diet, which requires all types of food to be eaten
|-
!| Hot Topic
|| minecraft:inventory_changed
||
|-
!| On a Rail
|| Not Possible
|| Requires a check for whether or not the player is riding an entity
|-
!| Delicious Fish
|| minecraft:inventory_changed
|| Is a prerequisite for A Balanced Diet, which requires all types of food to be eaten
|-
!| Diamonds to You
|| Not Possible
|| Inventory change is not sufficient; the NBT data that says who threw the diamond is stored in the item entity, not the item itself
|-
!| Overkill
|| minecraft:player_hurt_entity
||
|-
!| Librarian
|| minecraft:inventory_changed
||
|-
!| The Beginning.
|| minecraft:player_killed_entity
||
|}

== Semi-protection ==

Please semi-protect the page of advancements page.--[[User:Beans1512|Beans1512]] ([[User talk:Beans1512|talk]]) 08:14, 23 June 2017 (UTC)

== The Display Tag ==

Does omitting the display tag make it never show up at all in the advancement map?

--[[User:MCweb|MCweb]] 22:23, 23 December 2017 (UTC)

: Yes. --[[User:PepijnMC|Pepijn]] ([[User talk:PepijnMC|talk]]) 22:49, 23 December 2017 (UTC)

== Location Criteria ==

If I use it to test for a whole number coordinate, will it succeed only if I'm precisely at the north west corner of that block, or will it succeed if I'm anywhere in that block?

--[[User:MCweb|MCweb]] 04:21, 25 December 2017 (UTC)

:Precisely iirc, use a min max range if you don't want that. --[[User:PepijnMC|Pepijn]] ([[User talk:PepijnMC|talk]]) 15:25, 25 December 2017 (UTC)

== New 1.13 mobs/items in advancements? ==

Can someone verify if:

*Breeding turtles can unlock ''The Parrots and the Bats'' , and is required to unlock ''Two by Two''?
*Defeating a phantom can unlock ''Monster Hunter'', and is required to unlock ''Monsters Hunted''?
*Eating dried kelp can unlock ''Husbandry'' and is required to unlock ''A Balanced Diet''.

-[[User:EatingSilencerforBreakfast|EatingSilencerforBreakfast]] ([[User talk:EatingSilencerforBreakfast|talk]]) 20:22, 4 March 2018 (UTC)

:*No (bug), yes but can't be completed at all because turtle breeding does not trigger the advancement (bug)
:*Not yet, not yet
:*Yes, no
:*Extra: the new biomes have not been included in adventuring time yet.
: --[[User:PepijnMC|Pepijn]] ([[User talk:PepijnMC|talk]]) 21:01, 4 March 2018 (UTC)

:As of [[18w10a]], the Phantom is counted towards the two monster advancements, and Dried Kelp is counted towards ''A Balanced Diet.'' ''Adventuring Time'' now has 40 biomes required instead of 36.-[[User:EatingSilencerforBreakfast|EatingSilencerforBreakfast]] ([[User talk:EatingSilencerforBreakfast|talk]]) 21:10, 6 March 2018 (UTC)

:: Verified and added to the page. – [[User:Sealbudsman| Sealbudsman]] <span style="transform: rotate(-16deg); display: inline-block; top: -1px; position: relative;"><sup>[[User talk:Sealbudsman|talk]]</sup>/<sub>[[Special:Contributions/Sealbudsman|contr]]</sub></span> 12:15, 9 March 2018 (UTC)

== Hidden (recipe) advancements ==

I just want to make sure that this didn't go unnoticed, also because this page lists all available advancements, including some hidden ones.

Apart from the already mentioned advancements there's also a completely hidden tree which starts with minecraft:recipes/root and contains a ''ton'' of advancements (9 directories full of them) which are solely used to unlock recipes for players. I don't really see any extra advantage to list all these (seems like overkill to me, also because they don't have names nor descriptions) but I am wondering if it could be useful to at least mention this detail?

-- [[User:ShelLuser|ShelLuser]] ([[User talk:ShelLuser|talk]]) 02:49, 6 September 2018 (UTC)

== A Furious Cocktail actual requirements ==

"A Furious Cocktail" lists something under "actual requirements (if different)", but the actual requirements are what the game says, have every potion effect at the same time. I think that should be changed and instead underling "every potion effect" and list them there. [[User:4hrue2kd83f|4hrue2kd83f]] ([[User talk:4hrue2kd83f|talk]]) 23:46, 20 October 2018 (UTC)

== Redundancy in advancements such as "The Parrots and the Bats" and "Best Friends Forever"? ==

Is the information in the actual requirements section necessary? The files don't specify specific animals that can/can't be tamed or bred, it just uses the respective trigger and leaves the conditions empty. So, do we really need this information in the actual requirements section? -[[User:PancakeIdentity|PancakeIdentity]] ([[User talk:PancakeIdentity|talk]]) 06:29, 24 February 2019 (UTC)

== Move criteria triggers to their individual pages ==

Currently, we have a ton of criteria triggers. They take up too much space in the page when editing, making editions to other parts difficult. I suggest moving criteria triggers to their individual pages, much like what we did to enchantments, commands, and status effects. [[User:Liachmodded|liach]] ([[User talk:Liachmodded|talk]]) 03:56, 5 April 2019 (UTC)

:{{c|?|Maybe}}.  I'm not sure I like moving them each to individual articles, and these (unlike e.g. enchantments) are things where you might want to be able to CTRL+F the entire page.  I think it might make sense to move the whole list into its own article while still keeping them all on one page.  Granted, I haven't actually done anything with advancements and haven't used the information myself.  --[[User:Pokechu22|Pokechu22]] ([[User talk:Pokechu22|talk]]) 04:12, 5 April 2019 (UTC)

: I agree with pokechu, plus a page per trigger would not really be enough info per page to warrant one. [[User:FVbico|FVbico]] ([[User talk:FVbico|talk]]) 07:24, 5 April 2019 (UTC)

: How about moving all triggers out to one trigger-dedicated page then, like the page for [[raids.dat format]]? Or we can just move all advancement customization related content into one new page. [[User:Liachmodded|liach]] ([[User talk:Liachmodded|talk]]) 08:54, 5 April 2019 (UTC)

== Is that reference page? ==

https://minecraft.gamepedia.com/index.php?title=Advancements&diff=1234117&oldid=1234114 See this pls[[Special:Contributions/180.190.51.87|180.190.51.87]] 23:01, 13 May 2019 (UTC)

== Add a "hidden" section to the tables? ==

We have a few advancements, such as How Did We Get Here and Arbalistic, that are hidden until they are unlocked. This isn't really communicated anywhere here, and I suggest that we should add something to the table template to be able to communicate this where needed. -[[User:PancakeIdentity|PancakeIdentity]] ([[User talk:PancakeIdentity|talk]]) 22:09, 15 June 2019 (UTC)
: Sure. – '''[[User:Nixinova|Nixinova]]''' [[File:Nixinova sig1.png|16px|link=User talk:Nixinova]] [[File:Nixinova sig2.png|16px|link=Special:Contribs/Nixinova]] 22:45, 15 June 2019 (UTC)
:: I'd do it myself, but I don't really know how to edit templates, and I don't wanna break anything. -[[User:PancakeIdentity|PancakeIdentity]] ([[User talk:PancakeIdentity|talk]]) 23:19, 15 June 2019 (UTC)
::: Ah, you're wanting the template changed. Probably better to request it on [[Template talk: Advancements]]. – '''[[User:Nixinova|Nixinova]]''' [[File:Nixinova sig1.png|16px|link=User talk:Nixinova]] [[File:Nixinova sig2.png|16px|link=Special:Contribs/Nixinova]] 23:42, 15 June 2019 (UTC)

== Split proposal for advancement triggers ==

I am proposing that the list of triggers be split off into a sub article titled "Advancements/List of triggers". Makes the table of contents a reasonable size and allows for some images that were removed because of the large size of the table of contents to be restored to the page.

:{{c|Support}} as nominator. -'''[[User:BDJP007301|BDJP]]''' <sup>([[User talk:BDJP007301|t]]|[[Special:Contributions/BDJP007301|c]])</sup> 17:18, 21 June 2019 (UTC)

:{{C|Support}}. I don't think each trigger needs its own page like enchantments or effects, but one page for all of them would be great. -[[User:PancakeIdentity|PancakeIdentity]] ([[User talk:PancakeIdentity|talk]]) 17:35, 21 June 2019 (UTC)

:{{C|Support}}, the page is becoming too long because of this. --[[User:Robotkoer|Robotkoer]] ([[User talk:Robotkoer|talk]]) 09:33, 26 June 2019 (UTC)

{{c|Done}}; split has been performed. -'''[[User:BDJP007301|BDJP]]''' <sup>([[User talk:BDJP007301|t]]|[[Special:Contributions/BDJP007301|c]])</sup> 04:05, 5 July 2019 (UTC)

:Looking at the page now, maybe just having all the JSON stuff there would be better? -[[User:PancakeIdentity|PancakeIdentity]] ([[User talk:PancakeIdentity|talk]]) 05:37, 5 July 2019 (UTC)

== Does this really need it's own page? ==

Personally I don't think this should be its own page. Advancements are still just achievements.
They're not different because they have a tree system because the old Achievements had that, too
They're not different because they have a different name because Playstation's Achievements are called "Trophies" yet it shares the Achievement page.
They're not special because they can be modified with a DataPack because we don't separate Bedrock and Legacy skins from Java skins.
They're not like the "texture pack" to "resource pack" case because they barely changed when the name changed, but resource packs are extremely different from texture packs when it comes to functionality. [[User:ML isDreaming|ML isDreaming]] ([[User talk:ML isDreaming|talk]] • [[Special:Contribs/ML isDreaming|contribs]]) at 23:39, 04 July 2019 (UTC).
: None of this is a valid argument. Advancements are a game feature '''''completely separate''''' to achievements. End of story. It doesn't have to be "special" or anything at all. It's a feature, so it has a page. – '''[[User:Nixinova|Nixinova]]''' [[File:Nixinova sig1.png|link=User talk:Nixinova]] [[File:Nixinova sig2.png|link=Special:Contribs/Nixinova]] 23:44, 4 July 2019 (UTC)
:: Should we give trophies their own page then? [[User:ML isDreaming|ML isDreaming]] ([[User talk:ML isDreaming|talk]]) 14:14, 5 July 2019 (UTC)
::: No, because "Trophies" are simply achievements. If the Bedrock Edition was released for PS4, it would apply there as well. -'''[[User:BDJP007301|BDJP]]''' <sup>([[User talk:BDJP007301|t]]|[[Special:Contributions/BDJP007301|c]])</sup> 15:25, 5 July 2019 (UTC)
:::: But "Trophies are a game feature '''''completely separate''''' to achievements. End of story. It doesn't have to be "special" or anything at all. It's a feature, so it has a page." How is this different? (Sorry if I sound jerkish btw. Not my intention.)--[[User:ML isDreaming|ML isDreaming]] ([[User talk:ML isDreaming|talk]]) 06:05, 9 July 2019 (UTC)
::::: Trophies are literally achievements, just renamed. Advancements are ''completely different'' to achievements. – '''[[User:Nixinova|Nixinova]]''' [[File:Nixinova sig1.png|link=User talk:Nixinova]] [[File:Nixinova sig2.png|link=Special:Contribs/Nixinova]] 00:10, 10 July 2019 (UTC)
::::::Advancements are just more customizable Achievements. --[[User:ML isDreaming|ML isDreaming]] ([[User talk:ML isDreaming|talk]]) 01:08, 12 July 2019 (UTC)
: Advancements and Achievements have very different functionality. On the surface, they seem similar. But once you really get into it, they are extremely different. Using your example of texture packs vs resource packs, on the surface, they should be the same page because they change textures. But resource packs have the ability to change much much more. Similarly, achievements and advancements are both achievement systems on the surface. However, advancements use a completely different system internally and allow for complete customization and use in datapacks outside of being achievements. -[[User:PancakeIdentity|PancakeIdentity]] ([[User talk:PancakeIdentity|talk]]) 17:25, 5 July 2019 (UTC)
:: Didn't the old Java achievements use a completely different system internally and have complete customization through texture packs? --[[User:ML isDreaming|ML isDreaming]] ([[User talk:ML isDreaming|talk]]) 06:05, 9 July 2019 (UTC)
:::I meant that advancements and achievements have a completely different system internally. And no, achievements were not customizable through texture or resource packs. -[[User:PancakeIdentity|PancakeIdentity]] ([[User talk:PancakeIdentity|talk]]) 15:42, 9 July 2019 (UTC)
:::: You said "completely different system internally" the first time. What are you correcting? --[[User:ML isDreaming|ML isDreaming]] ([[User talk:ML isDreaming|talk]]) 17:20, 9 July 2019 (UTC)
:::: Also the "Last response. This is dumb" thing was pretty salty. Just because I have a differing opinion of you, doesn't validate you to be an dick. I've been respectful and open the entire time. I just have a different opinion on how it should be and was wondering why it was like it is. --[[User:ML isDreaming|ML isDreaming]] ([[User talk:ML isDreaming|talk]]) 00:06, 10 July 2019 (UTC)

== Move all JSON to the triggers page ==

I think it'd be a lot more useful to just have all the JSON info on one page. Using this for actually creating advancements is annoying as you have to have two windows open. -[[User:PancakeIdentity|PancakeIdentity]] ([[User talk:PancakeIdentity|talk]]) 18:48, 20 July 2019 (UTC)

:I know there hasn't been any input on this, but I'm gonna do it soon unless there's any valid disagreements. It just makes sense. -[[User:PancakeIdentity|PancakeIdentity]] ([[User talk:PancakeIdentity|talk]]) 00:03, 12 October 2019 (UTC)

== Avoid using the "Actual Requirements" tab unless necessary? ==

It seems like some of the "actual requirements" are just repeating the description. For example, the description of Enchanter says "Enchant an item at an Enchanting Table". The actual requirements say "Enchant any tool or book", which, if anything, is actually less descriptive. Or Zombie Doctor, in which the actual requirements explains the process of curing a zombie villager. That seems like information better obtained elsewhere on the wiki.

I guess I'm asking, should the "actual requirements" be filled in for every advancement if repetitive, and is it this column's job to explain game mechanics? -[[User:PancakeIdentity|PancakeIdentity]] ([[User talk:PancakeIdentity|talk]]) 19:26, 7 August 2019 (UTC)

== Change from tooltips to footnotes (or something else)? ==

Some of the advancements (such as [[Advancements#Adventuring Time|Adventuring Time]]) display all of the required items/mobs/biomes/effects in tooltips. However, tooltips don't show up in mobile view (at least for me), and you have to keep hovering over the underlined text to see the information; it also cannot be copy/pasted without viewing the page source. Would it be better to instead list the required items in footnotes or some other method (e.g. something like a tooltip, but stays on the screen when clicked on)? –'''[[User:Sonicwave32|<span style="color:green">Sonicwave</span>]] <small><sup>[[User talk:Sonicwave32|<span style="color:#008FB2">talk</span>]]</sup></small>''' 17:34, 3 October 2019 (UTC)

== Update the "Isn't It Iron Pick" advancement picture ==

Hello,

I have noticed that at the beginning of the [[Advancements]] article, a picture with "Isn't It Iron Pick" is selected, but it is in a different format. So are the other advancements. This means that this image is outdated, so we need to fix it. If you could just upload a new version of that photo, that would be greatly appreciated.<br>The image is located [https://minecraft.gamepedia.com/File:AdvancementsInterface.png here].<br>--[[User:Purpur4|Purpur4]] ([[User talk:Purpur4|talk]]) 13:32, 15 January 2020 (UTC)

== Proposal to move the Advancements/Conditions/* pages ==

All of the shared data structures used by predicates, loot tables, advancements, and possibly more in the future are under Advancements/Conditions/. I think it would be better if they got a shared and permanent location. I'm leaning towards Predicate/*. Is this something that's possible to do and does it seem like a good idea? [[User:Misode|Misode]] ([[User talk:Misode|talk]]) 21:46, 28 January 2020 (UTC)
: Definitely possible, and {{c|support}}. [[User:FVbico|FVbico]] ([[User talk:FVbico|talk]]) 21:49, 28 January 2020 (UTC)

== Why put reference again? ==

Why put reference? Look this [https://minecraft.gamepedia.com/index.php?title=Advancements&diff=1234117&oldid=1234114]

== A Complete Catalogue ==

The requirements for this advancement are to tame all the cat variants. How many variants are there? -[[Special:Contributions/98.246.128.140|98.246.128.140]] 06:39, 2 February 2020 (UTC)

:11 variants. See [[Cat#Appearance]]. --[[User:Hanzepic|Hanzepic]] <sup>([[User:Hanzepic|talk]])</sup> 07:14, 2 February 2020 (UTC)

== References to other media may not be entirely accurate ==

The references to other media may not be true. For instance, "Bee our Guest" isn't necessarily a reference to the Disney song Be our Guest, as Be our Guest is a phrase anyway; the advancement may simply be referencing that, not a song.
The same may also be true of Monster Hunter, but that is less likely.
I am also rather sceptical of the supposed reference to Star Trek: The Next Generation. "The Next Generation" can simply mean the next generation; in this case the next generation of dragons. This does not make it a reference to a film that happens to have the same name. Of course, if it has actually been stated that the points I have brought up are incorrect, then please tell me so. That is the reason I mentioned it in a talk page, rather than editing it right off the bat. [[User:Slashertor|Slashertor]] ([[User talk:Slashertor|talk]]) 10:02, 14 March 2020 (UTC)
:Not sure why that section even exists, it's purely speculative and has no place on a wiki. -[[User:PepijnMC|Pepijn]] ([[User talk:PepijnMC|talk]]) 06:12, 18 May 2020 (UTC)

== Which potion is featured on the "Local Brewery" advancement? ==

Hi,

The Local Brewery advancement has a potion on it's icon, but which one is it? The [[Tutorials/Advancement guide|advancement guide]] says that it's a [[potion of regeneration]], while the advancements page says that it is an [[uncraftable potion]]. Which one is it? If someone could verify this, thank you!

In my opinion, I think it's the uncraftable potion because it has more vibrant colors than the potion of regeneration. The icon actually looks more colorful, so I suppose it could be an uncraftable potion? 

Regards, [[User:Purpur4|Purpur4]] ([[User talk:Purpur4|talk]]) 23:53, 5 May 2020 (UTC)


It appears to be both, to me. Unless the picture we have for the advancement guide is outdated, both are acceptable. I guess pull up a 1.15.2 version of Minecraft, look at the advancement there, and use your judgement. [[User:The Nightmare Tank|The Nightmare Tank]] ([[User talk:The Nightmare Tank|talk]]) 23:59, 5 May 2020 (UTC)

Well.. I don't have Minecraft Java Edition, but maybe we could get someone else to check it? Anyways, I still strongly believe that it's the uncraftable potion because the [[:File:Advancements Tree - Nether.png|advancement tree file]] (in the Nether) looks like an uncraftable potion. [[User:Purpur4|Purpur4]] ([[User talk:Purpur4|talk]]) 00:32, 6 May 2020 (UTC)

Went into Java Minecraft, myself. 1.15.2 has what appears to be the Uncraftable Potion. So it sounds to me like the icon for the advancement we have is currently outdated, and could use a refreshment. [[User:The Nightmare Tank|The Nightmare Tank]] ([[User talk:The Nightmare Tank|talk]]) 00:40, 6 May 2020 (UTC)

== Categories are broken ==

Hello,

The categories are not displaying at the top of each tab/section. Can someone please figure out what the problem is?

--[[User:Purpur4|Purpur4]] ([[User talk:Purpur4|talk]]) 23:46, 24 May 2020 (UTC)

== Do we really need the 'Miscellaneous references' section? ==

I mean most everything in this section seems so darn obvious, that it's almost laughable. I really don't think that it's necessary. Anyone else feel the same?
[[Special:Contributions/73.40.56.255|73.40.56.255]] 16:22, 14 June 2020 (UTC)SquireTurnbolt

== Two by Two, trader llamas, and JE 1.16 ==

<blockquote>A [[trader llama]] does not count as a [[llama]], and donkeys and mules count as horses.{{until|java 1.16}}</blockquote>
The tag on this sentence is ambiguous: is it saying only that donkeys and mules will stop counting as horses in 1.16, or is it also saying that trader llamas will start counting as llamas? If the former, this can be fixed simply by swapping the two statements: "Donkeys and mules count as horses,{{until|java 1.16}} and a [[trader llama]] does not count as a [[llama]]." <span class="nowrap">「[[User:Dinoguy1000|<span style="color:#00f">ディノ</span><span style="color:#080">奴</span>]][[Special:Contributions/Dinoguy1000|<span style="color:#F90">千？！</span>]]」<sup>[[User talk:Dinoguy1000#top|☎ Dinoguy1000]]</sup></span> 12:42, 17 June 2020 (UTC)

== Sources for advancement names ==

I chuckled a bit the first time I attained the "Ol' Betsy" advancement, because it may refer to an old Disney movie. In the animated Robin Hood, the character Nutsy (one of the Sherriff's stooges) has named his crossbow Betsy (or Ol' Betsy).

Is there a references page for this kind of thing (possible salutes to other media)? [[User:SirDaddicus|SirDaddicus]] ([[User talk:SirDaddicus|talk]]) 20:10, 21 January 2021 (UTC)
: Unless we get a source from mojang it references that specifically, it is speculation, and as such should not be on the wiki. [[User:Dhranios|Dhranios]] ([[User talk:Dhranios|talk]]) (Join the [[MCW:Projects/Wiki videos|wiki videos project]]!) 20:49, 21 January 2021 (UTC)

:: Well, that's boring. When game developers put those things in, they WANT them to be noticed. The other big game wiki I post on includes them, but always says "this may be a reference to ...". If that's a rule here, though, bummer. [[User:SirDaddicus|SirDaddicus]] ([[User talk:SirDaddicus|talk]]) 05:26, 23 January 2021 (UTC)

== “A Balanced Diet” has wrong link in list. ==
The Pufferfish link on the “A Balanced Diet” links to the pufferfish mob instead of the item. [[Special:Contributions/2.30.41.142|2.30.41.142]] 21:37, 1 February 2021 (UTC)
:Fixed<b class=nowrap><b style="border:1px solid #10a"> [[User:Nixinova|Nixinova]] </b> <b style="border:1px solid #06f"> [[User talk:Nixinova|T]] </b> <b style="border:1px solid #0af"> [[Special:Contribs/Nixinova|C]] </b></b>  21:51, 1 February 2021 (UTC)

== “How Did We Get Here?” has wrong link in list. ==
The Hunger link on the “How Did We Get Here?” links to the hunger mechanic instead of the effect. [[Special:Contributions/74.105.119.148|74.105.119.148]] 19:31, 14 February 2021 (UTC)
:Good catch. Fixed. [[User:Amatulic|Amatulic]] ([[User talk:Amatulic|talk]]) 19:37, 14 February 2021 (UTC)

== Adventuring Time Rewards ==

We visited all 42 Java biomes and the table lists 500 experience under rewards. That didn't happen for us. Did we miss something? <small>– Unsigned comment added by [[Special:Contribs/76.105.130.38|76.105.130.38]] ([[User talk:76.105.130.38|talk]]) at 23:39, 25 February 2021 (UTC). Sign comments with ~~<nowiki/>~~</small><!-- Template:Unsigned -->
: It refers to experience points, not levels. Did you get any ''experience'' when you achieved the advancement? --[[User:Mestesso123|Mestesso123]] ([[User talk:Mestesso123|talk]]) 14:22, 10 March 2021 (UTC)

== Copyright Dismissed ==

Ooooooh! Shiny was already made by [https://terraria.fandom.com/wiki/Terraria_Wiki Terraria, Which was given for Mining A Ore]. --[[Special:Contributions/72.199.46.251|72.199.46.251]] 20:13, 15 April 2021 (UTC)
:Is there a point you want to make? [[User:Amatulic|Amatulic]] ([[User talk:Amatulic|talk]]) 20:54, 15 April 2021 (UTC)

== Don't remove parts of the game ==

Amatulic, that quote is part of the game. Look at the text in the advancements panel. Don't remove it. 

I'll be undoing your undo unless someone can state a good reason to remove text provided by the game itself. [[User:SirDaddicus|SirDaddicus]] ([[User talk:SirDaddicus|talk]]) 15:06, 8 June 2021 (UTC)

== Healing Power of Friendship missing? ==

I'm on Java (1.17.1, with the datapack for C&C). When I look at the Husbandry tab of the Advancements screen, I can't find "Healing Power of Friendship". Has it been removed, or is it hidden? Or, am I just missing it? (But, I checked the whole list twice.) [[User:SirDaddicus|SirDaddicus]] ([[User talk:SirDaddicus|talk]]) 15:57, 4 August 2021 (UTC)
:It's listed in the [[Achievement]] article too. It shows up for me in Bedrock Edition 1.17.10 in the "locked" section of achievements.
:Try killing a mob that an axolotl is attacking and see what happens. If the advancement appears for you, then you may have found a bug. [[User:Amatulic|Amatulic]] ([[User talk:Amatulic|talk]]) 03:42, 5 August 2021 (UTC)
::Well, I did a bit more looking around. I found it in multiplayer, but Java 1.17.1 vanilla (without the datapack). However, there's one other factor that might be involved: in the multiplayer game, I have the advancement "Tactical Fishing". The Healing advancement should be two levels under that one (under "The Cutest Predator", which I don't have in either game). I'm going to try to get Tactical Fishing and see if it shows up. Stay tuned ... [[User:SirDaddicus|SirDaddicus]] ([[User talk:SirDaddicus|talk]]) 14:48, 5 August 2021 (UTC)
:::That was it! I got Tactical Fishing, and the Healing Power advancement showed up. I'll try to think of a way to word it on the page. [[User:SirDaddicus|SirDaddicus]] ([[User talk:SirDaddicus|talk]]) 14:56, 5 August 2021 (UTC)
::::Anterdc99, please explain yourself better. I'm not about to use a command to grant an advancement in a real game. I DID the advancement (the right way), and the new advancement showed up. Have you actually tried this in a real game? [[User:SirDaddicus|SirDaddicus]] ([[User talk:SirDaddicus|talk]]) 18:05, 5 August 2021 (UTC)
:::::Basic mechanic here: the UI only show up two advancements downstream. This mechanic is used for every advancements, also include the case you described. Try unlock '''Acquire Hardware''' only and see if '''We Need to Go Deeper''', '''Cover Me With Diamonds''', '''Enchanter''' was shown?--&nbsp;[[File:Anterdc99Face.png|16px|link=]]&nbsp;<b style="font:100% Trebuchet MS;">'''[[User:Anterdc99|<span style="color:#FF8000;">Anterdc99</span>]]'''([[User talk:Anterdc99|T]]·[[Special:Contributions/Anterdc99|C]])</b> 02:07, 6 August 2021 (UTC)
::::::New game, creative, Java 1.17.1 vanilla. After getting the advancement "Fishy Business", this is what it looks like: https://minecraft.wiki/w/File:Missing_Advancement_Healing_Power_of_Friendship.png.

::::::So, by "basic mechanic", do you mean this is the way it always works? [[User:SirDaddicus|SirDaddicus]] ([[User talk:SirDaddicus|talk]]) 14:06, 6 August 2021 (UTC)
:::::::Definitely. Whether unlock an advancement through normal gameplay or command, it works. To confirm this, you can unlock '''Tactical fishing''' only instead of '''Fishy business''' only, and see differences of their shown downstrem advancements. Or see '''Acquire Hardware''''s & '''Hot Stuff''''s downstream advancements' difference (the example which I provided above) or test something else to see similar differences.
:::::::I reverted your edit because you only wrote on '''The Healing Power of Friendship!''', is not suitable for a rule which applied to all advancements, you should mention it in every single advancement instead, or mention it in the summary of all advancements (I did this in [[Special:PermanentLink/2000874]]).--&nbsp;[[File:Anterdc99Face.png|16px|link=]]&nbsp;<b style="font:100% Trebuchet MS;">'''[[User:Anterdc99|<span style="color:#FF8000;">Anterdc99</span>]]'''([[User talk:Anterdc99|T]]·[[Special:Contributions/Anterdc99|C]])</b> 15:19, 6 August 2021 (UTC)
::::::::Very good! Thank you for your help and the information! [[User:SirDaddicus|SirDaddicus]] ([[User talk:SirDaddicus|talk]]) 19:45, 6 August 2021 (UTC)

== when the game updates to 1.18/1.19 will some of my advancements lose progress?? ==

i realized now that maybe advancements might lose progress due to new things being added. here's what i mean:

warden- contributes to "Monsters Hunted"
darkness effect- contributes to "How Did We Get Here?" and possible "A Furious Cocktail"
meadow, grove, snowy slopes, jagged peaks, frozen peaks, and jagged peaks (and possibly the deep dark)-contribute to "Adventuring Time"
removal of transitional biomes/removal of biome variations- ''used'' to contribute to "Adventuring Time"
frogs- contribute to "Two by Two" (unconfirmed)

am i gonna have to get all of these things done again? even if i just have to breed the frogs or find those biomes its still gonna be a lot of work. also PLEASE dont tell me i gotta redo How Did We Get Here? that would suck

: No, you won't need to get How Did We Get Here? or A Furious Cocktail again, don't worry. As for the rest, you'll only have to do the new requirements; that means you'll only have to breed frogs and visit the new biomes once. Mojang has also stated that you should not try to kill the warden, so there is no way they are gonna add it to Monsters Hunted.[[User:ManosSef|ManosSef]] ([[User talk:ManosSef|talk]]) 20:11, 7 November 2021 (UTC)

== Radii of two boss-related advancements ==

The advancements "Withering Heights" and "The End... Again..." are triggered not by player action, but by being near where an event happens. "Withering Heights" is granted to all players within a certain distance of a wither's summoning, and "The End... Again..." is granted to all players within a certain distance to the exit portal when the dragon is re-summoned. The exact range within which players would receive these two advancements, however, is unclear. Can someone do some code-digging and figure it out? [[User:Windwend|Windwend]] ([[User talk:Windwend|talk]]) 02:51, 24 April 2023 (UTC)

== Missing removed advancements in History ==

Some achievements were removed from the game in the process of transitioning to advancements system. They are not mentioned in the history section. --[[Special:Contributions/176.49.158.249|176.49.158.249]] 13:48, 4 November 2023 (UTC)

:All achievements were replaced, and as such, that information is not necessary. '''[[User:BDJP007301|BDJP]]''' <sup>([[User talk:BDJP007301|t]]|[[Special:Contributions/BDJP007301|c]])</sup> 13:55, 4 November 2023 (UTC)

:: It might still be nice to have some page documenting the old Java achievements though, similar to [[Trading/Before Village & Pillage]]. &vert; [[User:Violine1101|violine1101]] <sup>([[User Talk:Violine1101|talk]])</sup> 19:49, 4 November 2023 (UTC)

::: Such page does already exist: [[Achievement/Java Edition]]. --[[User:Melwin22|Melwin22]] ([[User talk:Melwin22|talk]]) 10:34, 5 November 2023 (UTC)

== Allow explanations of references in advancement titles ==

We should add an explanations column to the advancements tables. While it can be considered speculation, we have already made exceptions to this. Look at the splashes page - what are the explanations there if not speculation? Any that are sourced are few and far between. It’s all just guesses, but granted, they are guesses that are probably correct. So why can’t this apply to the advancements page? If an exception can be made for splashes, then one can be made for advancements. - [[User:BD|BD]] ([[User talk:BD|talk]]) 15:19, 8 April 2024 (UTC)
: {{c|Support}} as original proposer. - [[User:BD|BD]] ([[User talk:BD|talk]]) 15:19, 8 April 2024 (UTC)

: The explanation coloumn you are mentioning is already there in the form of Actual Requirements (if different) and it pretty much completely explains how to get the advancement. Adding a completely new column for explanation would not make sense. -- [[File:StizzurpXDD Transparent BG.png|24px|text-top|link=]]     '''<span style="color:#ADFF2F; text-shadow:0 0 5px #05B7B9, 0 0 10px #05B7B9, 0 0 15px #05B7B9; font-family: Minecraft;">StizzurpXDD</span>'''<sup>([[User talk:StizzurpXDD|'''talk''']])</sup> 15:33, 8 April 2024 (UTC)
:: You seem to be misunderstanding something. I said explanations of advancement titles. I’m proposing we explain references, such as “Withering Heights” referencing the book “Wuthering Heights.” - [[User:BD|BD]] ([[User talk:BD|talk]]) 15:35, 8 April 2024 (UTC)

:::Got it. I think we should be waiting for a senior editors views on it. -- [[File:StizzurpXDD Transparent BG.png|24px|text-top|link=]]     '''<span style="color:#ADFF2F; text-shadow:0 0 5px #05B7B9, 0 0 10px #05B7B9, 0 0 15px #05B7B9; font-family: Minecraft;">StizzurpXDD</span>'''<sup>([[User talk:StizzurpXDD|'''talk''']])</sup> 15:42, 8 April 2024 (UTC)

: On Chinese Wiki, we put these explanations in a subsection in trivia. --[[File:Wilf233Face.png|15px]][[User:Wilf233|<span style="font-family:Bradley Hand ITC; color:#00B0F0">'''Wilf233'''</span><sub><span style="font-family:华文彩云; color:Purple">zhMCW</span></sub>]]（[[User talk:Wilf233|论]]·[[Special:Contribs/Wilf233|功]]） 15:47, 8 April 2024 (UTC)

::Good Idea! We can do the same. -- [[File:StizzurpXDD Transparent BG.png|24px|text-top|link=]]     '''<span style="color:#ADFF2F; text-shadow:0 0 5px #05B7B9, 0 0 10px #05B7B9, 0 0 15px #05B7B9; font-family: Minecraft;">StizzurpXDD</span>'''<sup>([[User talk:StizzurpXDD|'''talk''']])</sup> 15:51, 8 April 2024 (UTC)
:: This was the case on the English wiki as well until it was removed a few years ago. - [[User:Zamburger|Zamburger]] ([[User talk:Zamburger|talk]]) 16:26, 8 April 2024 (UTC)

: {{c|Weak support}}. I do not like speculation on wikis and I fully get why the reference subsection was removed. Yet, I reckon that an exception for advancements and achievements could be made as long as it's kept under a subsection, stated using the conditional tense rather than the affirmative tense (unlike what it used to be) and somehow moderated enough so that far-fetched speculations are not added among the obvious references (which is the most challenging point to enforce and what leads me not to fully support the proposal). - [[User:Zamburger|Zamburger]] ([[User talk:Zamburger|talk]]) 16:28, 8 April 2024 (UTC)

: {{c|Oppose}}. I stand by that any references in advancement names must be sourced to a Mojang employee. '''[[User:BDJP007301|BDJP]]''' <sup>([[User talk:BDJP007301|t]]|[[Special:Contributions/BDJP007301|c]])</sup> 00:36, 11 April 2024 (UTC)
:: Are you not going to engage with the point of splashes at all? Those aren't sourced, yet are kept up. Why shouldn't the same thing apply here? You seem to be pointlessly adament on not making an exception despite us having done so already for another page. Would it kill us to provide some helpful context for advancement titles? It's honestly stranger to not have it, a lot of the time people go to wikis to see trivia like this, and I can definitely imagine a lot of users wanting to see advancement title references. I myself went to the page seeking it, and was shocked to see nothing. - [[User:BD|BD]] ([[User talk:BD|talk]]) 00:44, 11 April 2024 (UTC)
::: The reason why splashes were given an exception is that some references to those are obvious and unambiguous behind a reasonable doubt. '''[[User:BDJP007301|BDJP]]''' <sup>([[User talk:BDJP007301|t]]|[[Special:Contributions/BDJP007301|c]])</sup>

== 1.20.5's experimental changes for 1.21 aren't in their own section ==

The title says it all. I tried editing the source and I noticed that the <code>dev</code> and <code>exp</code> fields (I don't know if they're actually called fields, but I'm calling them that) were in the opposite order compared to how they were for 1.20.3's 1.21 experiments. I tried changing the order, but previewing the edit showed no change. Upon closer examination of the other "experimental" sections I noticed that 1.20.5 was the only update which had other advancement changes as well as the experimental changes. Could this be an issue with the way these tables are coded? [[User:Davie53|Davie53]] ([[User talk:Davie53|talk]]) 21:32, 27 June 2024 (UTC)

:There was an oversight on how experimental versions are applied in the history section. I think it will be a quick fix, I will work on it now. [[User:Mudscape|Mudscape]] ([[User talk:Mudscape|talk]]) 21:42, 27 June 2024 (UTC)
:This is now fixed, thank you for the report! [[User:Mudscape|Mudscape]] ([[User talk:Mudscape|talk]]) 22:07, 27 June 2024 (UTC)
:I know this is irrelevant, but those things ({{cd|dev}} and {{cd|exp}}) are called parameters, not fields. --[[User:MinecraftExp123|MinecraftExp123]]<sup>([[User talk:MinecraftExp123|talk]]|[[Special:Contributions/MinecraftExp123|contribs]])</sup> 01:42, 30 June 2024 (UTC)

== Split proposal? ==

{{@|User-12316399}} I don't understand why this page should be split. Singular advancements do not have enough info to warrant a full page, as per [[MCW:N#General]] rule 1. The only information is what triggers it, which as shown in the page, it literally only takes at most one paragraph. Please explain. --[[User:MinecraftExp123|MinecraftExp123]]<sup>([[User talk:MinecraftExp123|talk]]&vert;[[Special:Contributions/MinecraftExp123|contribs]])</sup> 11:17, 9 February 2025 (UTC)

:I agree. [[File:AYAANFACE.png|20x20px|class=pixel-image|link=https://minecraft.wiki/w/User:Ayaan]] [[User:Ayaan|<span style="font-family:Minecraft; background: linear-gradient(90deg, #46beff, #419aee); -webkit-background-clip: text; color: transparent; text-shadow: 2px 2px 5px rgba(0, 0, 0, 0.3);">Ayaan</span>]] 11:30, 9 February 2025 (UTC)
:I also concur and am against the split proposal. <span style="font-family: Minecraft; color: purple;">[[User:QuickWhitt7|QuickWhitt7]] ([[User talk:QuickWhitt7|Talk]])</span> 11:35, 9 February 2025 (UTC)

== Update Adventure and Nether tree image ==

The Nether tree still has Country Lode, Take Me Home, and it's missing from the Adventure tree. Can someone update it? When you open the advancement menu, the whole tree doesn't show, and I don't know how to edit an image, so can someone do it? Thanks in advance. --[[User:MinecraftExp123|MinecraftExp123]]<sup>([[User talk:MinecraftExp123|talk]]&vert;[[Special:Contributions/MinecraftExp123|contribs]])</sup> 08:29, 25 April 2025 (UTC)
: Done [[User:Oakar567|Oakar567]] ([[User talk:Oakar567|talk]]) 11:38, 25 April 2025 (UTC)
::Thanks a lot! --[[User:MinecraftExp123|MinecraftExp123]]<sup>([[User talk:MinecraftExp123|talk]]&vert;[[Special:Contributions/MinecraftExp123|contribs]])</sup> 13:23, 25 April 2025 (UTC)